Why the Taliban hate women...

[Kelley]

At 09:28 PM 11/7/01 -0500, Gordon Fitch wrote:
>joanna bujes wrote:
> > >Though I am a socialist and consider class divisions far more important
> > >than gender-based divisions,
>
>Kelley:
> > i really don't think that being a socialist means that class division must
> > be given priority of place in analysis over gender, race, ethnicity, 
> sexuality.
>
>If socialism means "the ownership or control of the means of
>production by the workers, or by the people generally", it
>certainly starts with (economic) class.  If it doesn't mean
>this, what does it mean?
>
>-- Gordon

whathefuckever! if you can't figure out what i was saying, as long as 
you've been on lists, then i can only conclude that you're aren't as smart 
as i thought you were or you're trolling. not to mention that you're 
subscribed to a list that has as its mission an attempt to get over the 
economism of traditional marxism... !  i'll go with the latter as an 
explanation for this question. in the meantime, consider the way joanna 
worte that sentence: she very nearly apologizes for being concerned with 
gender issues and not just class issues. please. i mean, she seriously 
thought she might not be considered a socialist if she concerned herself 
with such matters.

kelley