>>If socialism means "the ownership or control of the means of
>>production by the workers, or by the people generally", it
>>certainly starts with (economic) class. If it doesn't mean
>>this, what does it mean?
>>
>>-- Gordon
>
>whathefuckever! if you can't figure out what i was saying, as long
>as you've been on lists, then i can only conclude that you're aren't
>as smart as i thought you were or you're trolling. not to mention
>that you're subscribed to a list that has as its mission an attempt
>to get over the economism of traditional marxism... ! i'll go with
>the latter as an explanation for this question. in the meantime,
>consider the way joanna worte that sentence: she very nearly
>apologizes for being concerned with gender issues and not just class
>issues. please. i mean, she seriously thought she might not be
>considered a socialist if she concerned herself with such matters.
Weird, Gordon. It's as if you're saying gender has no bearing on access to the means of production, or one's place in the division of labor.
Doug