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>At 04:27 AM 10/10/01 +0000, Justin Schwartz wrote:
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>>Well, Kells, there was a possibility before we sent in the bombers of
>>treating this as a criminal investigation, as it should have been. If the
>>guy had been French, and not hiding out in the Third World, do you think
>>they would be bombing Paris? Notta fukin chance. So don't tell me there
>>was no other way, even to get a bad guy who won't stop. Of course,
>>talking about how it could have been is idle in a sense. But makes an
>>important rhetorical point about the kind of war we have and the kind of
>>government we have.
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>ahh hogwash. the french wouldn't have protected them, end of story.
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>i'm talking about what to do in very pragmatic terms because all this talk
>about what might have happened before they started dropping bombs is silly.
>in the first place, some military action would be necessary to get ObL Inc
>out of that country. That you or anyone else denies it is absurd on its
>face. You just don't go knocking on the Taliban's door and say, "We've
>come to arrest ObL Inc. Here are our papers." Lots of luck. did you even
>consider the anthropological interpretation of what the Taliban think they
>are doing when they protect ObL? Inc.? Different normative code, for these
>guys.
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>so be specific about what you really mean here wrt military action --
>since, really, special ops would have been inevitable. it's disingenuous
>to pretend otherwise, even before the bombing began.
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>We wouldn't have arrested him because we couldn't just do it without the
>use of force and we couldn't have kept them in the US waiting for trial
>without one major league nightmare on our hands. for years this would have
>gone on, unless we automatically ruled out the death penalty and sent them
>to life in prison. and where exactly would the guy go? and then you'd still
>have the constant threat of hostage-taking. absurd position to put
>ourselves in.
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>kelley
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