"Hate America" Left

Stephen E Philion philion at hawaii.edu
Fri Oct 12 08:02:13 PDT 2001


Feminista? Sounds like a group that might be on Negroponte's hit list, right after sandinista? Irony alert.....steve

On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Angelita Manzano wrote:


> I know exactly what Alterman is talking about. Here's
> an example of that attitude:
> http://www.feminista.com/v4n6/craft.html
>
> I hear this elitist, obnoxious, disdainful attitude
> mostly in conversations. Most people don't put it in
> writing, as Nikki Craft does.
> -Angie
> --- Dennis <dperrin13 at mediaone.net> wrote:
> > Now it's Alterman's turn to sniff out the appeasers
> > and traitors in our midst.
> >
> > "While many nonpatriots share an idealistic belief
> > in a kind of cosmopolitan, humanist
> > internationalism, some--like Jerry Falwell and Pat
> > Robertson on the right--really do hate this country.
> > These leftists find nothing to admire in its
> > magnificent Constitution; its fitful history of
> > struggle toward greater freedom for women,
> > minorities and other historically oppressed groups;
> > and its values, however imperfectly or
> > hypocritically manifested in everyday life. This
> > became obvious in a few of the immediate reactions
> > we heard in the wake of September 11. How could
> > anyone say with certainty why we were attacked when
> > we couldn't be sure who attacked us? All they could
> > know, really, is why they thought we deserved it.
> >
> > "This 'Hate America' left must be rejected for
> > reasons of honor and pragmatism. It is difficult
> > enough to 'talk sense to the American people' in
> > wartime without having to defend positions for which
> > we have no intellectual or emotional sympathy."
> >
> > Who is Alterman speaking of? Who are the members of
> > the "Hate America" left -- Chomsky? Zinn? Cockburn?
> > Sontag? Said? He doesn't say. But he does go after
> > the callous remarks of those on the right, primarily
> > his two fav targets (now worn with use), Andrew
> > Sullivan and Michael Kelly. Reviewing the latter's
> > recent slanders against "pacifists" who are
> > effectively "pro-terrorist," Alterman states,
> >
> > "But in neither column could [Kelly] find the
> > space--or the courage--to name a single one."
> >
> > Gee, him too?
> >
> > http://thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20011029&s=alterman
> >
> > DP
> >
>
>
> =====
> ". . (A)ctivists must begin by rallying support for what they favor, not simply emphasizing what they're against. In these times, war is a failure of imagination -- and so is the traditional peace protest. Folks need to hear the better alternative. . . .There's no reason a vision of a world of greater peace and economic justice cannot be wed to what makes strategic sense. We should, in fact, demand it." Geov Parrish,
>
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