Note to the "ladder of force left"

Kelley kwalker2 at gte.net
Tue Oct 23 10:37:00 PDT 2001


At 01:08 AM 10/24/01 +0800, Jacob Segal wrote:


>But you don't shot the criminal if someone else in standing in the way.
>
>Jacob Segal

is there some reason people can't actually read? or think a little more deeply. i'm sorry to be snotty, but there was absolutely nothing in doug's or seth's comments that would suggest that either of them think that an innocent person just standing in the way should get shot, let alone claiming that the suspect should get shot!

furthermore, your scenario is just a little too simplistic. if someone is legitimately wanted by the sizzlean for having just committed a crime and he takes refuge with his grandmother, then if the grandmother drags out the shotgun and refuses to let the ssizzlean in, starts screaming out the window at the pigs, and takes a couple of potshots, well...? or, even if granny doesn't get her gun and just refuses to turn him over, she ought to be kept from harm but, at that point, she's a criminal and no longer innocent.

once you concede that criminals ought not get away with nonsense, no matter what the social conditions are that "created" them, then you have to start thinking about how it actually all works.

which is what doug has done only to be consistently misrepresented in the past week.

there's is something seriously wrong with this insistence on twisting his words!

kelley



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