men and women

[Christopher Rhoades Dÿkema]

You are onto an important point here. Look at Hartz' THE FOUNDING OF NEW
SOCIETIES. His term for them is "fragment societies." And yes, from his
argument, which suggests that the US is the most capitalist of
societies, and explains why, I think one may see a from a dominant type
of unmediatedly male supremacist family structure to a rather
overdetermined sado-masochistic typical American character structure
and, as a result, a greater masculine assholery.

I'm telescoping a very large and complex argument.

Christopher Rhoades Dÿkema


> Date: Thu, 06 Sep 2001 14:10:30 -0700
> From: joanna bujes
> Subject: Re:men & women
>
> At 02:52 PM 09/06/2001 -0400, you wrote:
> >I was at a party last night and we all got to talking about the recent pole
> >done by FHM magazine regarding men's treatment of women worldwide. The men
> >of South Africa were ranked the greatest assholes in the world, Australians
> >came in second, American men 3rd. German men,
>
> This kind of reminds me of a little snippet from Marx...I forget WHERE it's
> from...but he said something about how, if you don't have that much time,
> one way to figure out the relative degree of civilization anywhere in the
> world,  is to look at the relations obtaining between men and women.
>
> The other thing that's notable is that the all the men that earned the
> asshole medals were from "settler" states... Is that worth pursuing?
>
> I had a German boyfriend. He was one of the nicest (and most relaxed)
> boyfriends I ever had. (He was also a communist.)
>
> Joanna Bujes
>
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