----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Henwood" <dhenwood at panix.com>
> This is strange. You concede that the U.S., Canada, and Australia
> should all go - France too? Japan? India? -
*sigh* What matters to me is two things- which harrass both the annoying "Marxist-Leninists" and the anti-Leninists. One, that right now, people who want to raise the issue of the destruction of Israel as the only point are getting us nowhere, if they do it in isolation. However, the majority of the population are not in this category- even the "left". Where the "left" are is in oposition to calling for the dismantling of Israel because of the racist and religious fundamental roots of this state. To skip this is to beieve things we have never seen- we know better and should not use terms against "Leninism" to dispute that we do need to start over. Your "Lenin" baiting is disappointing. I would expect better from Lou Proyect's supposed arch nemisis than this silly mirror image of his "argument" tactics.
Macdonald
but then return to the
> theme of Israel as being particularly malignant. That sort of thing
> looks bad. Maybe it's because you're a Leninist that you can't do the
> anti-statist routine very convincingly, so instead of calling for an
> end to nation-states in general, we get... what? I'm not sure. And
> how can the state go without having any consequences for the people
> involved?
>
> Doug
>