Conspiracist speculation leads us nowhere. McVeigh's lawyers grabbed at anything to distract from his obvious guilt. That was their job. Has Brenda forgotten that before his death McVeigh admitted his actions? There is not one shred of credible evidence tying the OKC bombing to middle east terrorists except that the target of the US government is shared by both sets of perpetrators.
Incidently, I was subpoened as an expert by the Nichols defense to help counter dubious government claims about "extremists" and reviewed thousands of pages of documents. So I have no doubt the government screwed up the investigastion.
But Brenda's post is garbage.
The Federation of American Scientists website is a terrific general resource on intelligence policy; but it is marred by the decision to include uncritical and unexplained links to dubious conspiracist articles, JFK assassination mania, and Area 51 delusions. People should complain to FAS for lending its prestige to this garbage.
-Chip Berlet
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Rosser" <shelter at tassie.net.au> To: <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com> Sent: Friday, September 21, 2001 11:17 PM Subject: Writ Mandamus
> Hi lbo-ers
> I just want to distract you folks again by yet another uninvited (and
> probably unwanted) intrusion:
>
> Could it be possible that Timothy McVeigh was innocent? Did the FBI and CIA
> do a 'cover up'? Why should anyone focus on such questions at this time?
>
> Answer: The US is likely to have an enemy within. .....(okay, so you know
> all about that - but it (ie this possible incident of corruption) still
> needs to be examined...don't you think??)
>
> Yoshie said:
> "One of the talking points (for a quickie conversation) is, "When the
> bombers of the Federal Building in Oklahoma turned out to be white
> guys, you didn't think it was a good idea to bomb all their families,
> friends, neighbors, ex-class mates, all who had the same reactionary
> thoughts as theirs, all who had the misfortune of having ever lived
> in the same country as theirs, all who had the same complexion,
> religion, etc. as theirs...did you?"
>
> It would pay for lbo-ers (and others) to read the complete contents of the
> Writ of Mandamus (where Tim McVeigh's defence asks for CIA and FBI records).
> It's on the Net. Go to the following page for the following links to the
> complete contents of the Writ:
> http://www.fas.org/irp/threat/mcveigh/index.html
> PETITION FOR WRIT OF MANDAMUS OF PETITIONER-DEFENDANT,
> TIMOTHY JAMES McVEIGH AND BRIEF IN SUPPORT
>
> MARCH 25, 1997
>
> Front
>
> OVERVIEW
> I. INTRODUCTION
> II. PHYSICAL AND POLITICAL MAGNITUDE OF THE
> DESTRUCTION OF THE ALFRED P. MURRAH BUILDING
> III. THE ARREST OF TIMOTHY McVEIGH
> IV. THE GRAND JURY RETURNS THE INDICTMENT OF "OTHERS UNKNOWN"
> V. THE "OTHERS UNKNOWN" TO THE GRAND JURY
> VI. PRIOR WARNING, ATF INFORMANTS, AND POSSIBLE "OTHERS UNKNOWN"
> VII. BEYOND ELOHIM CITY
> VIII. PROCEDURAL HISTORY OF DISCOVERY REQUESTS
> IX. GOVERNMENT EVASION OF ITS DISCOVERY RESPONSIBILITIES
> X. AUTHORITY
> XI. SPECIFIC RELIEF REQUESTED
>
>
> This document outlines that several witnesses directly contradict the
> evidence against McVeigh and that the CIA and FBI clearly had hard evidence
> linking the Oklahoma bombing to middle eastern political activists.
>
> Maybe I've missed something here????. But why would these two American
> agencies hold back information for so long when someone in America is facing
> capital punishment and his defence relies on the evidence that these
> agencies hold?? It makes no sense, unless they had something to hide in the
> first instance.
>
> Brenda Rosser
> PS: This is my last posting on this subject. If you choose to ignore
> this.........
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