----- Original Message ----- From: "Justin Schwartz" <jkschw at hotmail.com> To: <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:42 PM Subject: Re: Food Is, Still, Clearly Not a Human Right -
>CB: The liberal right that conflicts with the power of workers to control
>the means of production is in the U.S. Constitution represented by the
>Fifth Amendment "Takings Clause" by which private property may not be taken
>without just compensation, and elsewhere in U.S. legal principles such as
>the common law employment-at-will doctrine, et al. See my " For A
>Constitutional Amendment for A Right To A Living Wage "
This is economic liberaliam, which I do not maintain. I am a socialist. There is a good deal in the Constitution, and a great deal more in the law, that I would change. I am a political liberal. That means I support representative government, universal suffrage, competitive elections, and extensive social and political liberties. I don't think these are incompatible with common ownership of productic assets, abolitionof wage labor, and worker's control of production. I'd extend democratic political principles to the economy. No one here has even hinted at an argument that this can't be done,or that common wonership, worker's control, etc., preclude competitive elections, etc. You all know this is my view, I've said it a zillion times. jks
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There you go again. Yes, a Shweickartian PE is compatible with liberal democracy in some possible world--and lets not haggle over Kripkean/Lewis issues for the moment--but do you really think the Rumsfelds, Roves, Hormats, Winfrey's etc.of the world are going to let you have it without an immense loss of life?
Ian
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