This isn't going to be productive, Luke. You Dema pologists think that we advocates of independent political action are deluded, self-defeating fools, we IPA advocates think that you have tied your wagon to a backwards moving train. Nothing but experience, if that, will change minds. I spent eight years as a DP ward-heeler before I learned taht there's no there there. Nathan has never learned, God bless him. I don't think we'll ever persuade each other, or even learn much by the exchange. I only add that "the worse the better" is not the point. The Dems are sometimes lesser evils, but we will not atatin the greater good unless we build for it. Your strategy is one of permanent subjection and defeat. I don't expect a response, I can write yours. Let it go, guys. jks
>
> > "Excuse" him? Since when does the leader of a rival political party owe
>the
> > candidate of his opponent's party his support?
>
>He shouldn't bother running when the interests he supposedly serves will
>likely be done a disservice by his presence in a race. Are the issues
>progressives care about more imperiled because Bush, and not Gore, won? I
>would think so.
>
> > What's to excuse? No apologies. Bush sucks, but the only thing we
>Naderites
> > regret is that our guy didn't do better.
>
>I guess the recent gift the Senate gave to creditors everywhere really
>isn't
>cause for regret, then.
>
> > We're called "supporters."
>
>Those unwilling to honestly account for the foreseeable consequences of
>their support are apologists. Since you apparently lack any inclination to
>defend the ridiculous assertion that Nader's candidacy didn't play a
>crucial
>role in Gore's defeat, you may well not belong in that category.
>
> > You guys are the apologists. You have something
> > to apologize for. We don't.
>
>Only if you think "the worse, the better" is a coherent electoral strategy.
>
>-- Luke
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