----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck Munson" <chuck at tao.ca>
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> None of these big unions are engaged in ANY kind of class war against the
> bosses. They WORK WITH the bosses. Working people understand this, like
> they understand that voting is a sham, which is why they won't join
> unions.
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Actually, a not insignificant majority of US workers/citizens support unions and would join them if barriers to organizing weren't such a threat to the ability to keep one's job. The only way not to work with the bosses under capitalism is to not work for capitalist firms. Do you work in a non-capitalist firm? Is your workplace boss free?
> > > If you recall, labor had more power when it was
> > > autonomous and NOT organized into a few national unions.
> >
> > Exactly what time period are you thinking of?
>
> The late 19th and early 20th century when workers were being killed by the
> government. Read any histories of the period?
>
> << Chuck0 >>
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Unions, of course, had nothing to do with bringing about the cessation of violence against workers in the US and they did it by, gasp, cooperating with some bosses and even worse, lawyers...........
Ian