"post-leftism"

Chuck0 chuck at tao.ca
Thu Aug 15 21:57:32 PDT 2002


"Brian O. Sheppard x349393" wrote:


> And dont hunter-gatherers need spears? Isn't that a type of technology?
> What about protection from the elements? Clothes, shelter, heating. Again,
> technology rears its ugly head. How will the neo-Luddite primitivists of Chuck's twisted fantasy
> world take away the technology that, say, treats cancer? I'd like to know,
> as well.

Absolutely typical. Did I ever advocate any form of neo-luddite primitivism?

No. I never have and never will. I am not a primitivist, although I have some critical views toward technology, which I got, incidentally, from reading NON-PRIMTIVIST authors.

Like Wendell Berry, Lewis Mumford, Ivan Illich, Jerry Mander, Fredy Perlman, Murray Bookchin and 25+ years of reading science fiction.

See, I was a big space nut when I was a teenager. Thanks to some more reading and my radicalization during college, I started asking questions about what it takes to have things like space programs. You can't have a DIY space program. Fuck, NASA can't even do things right (it lost a satellite today) and it has billions of dollars.

A post-revolutionary anarchist society, one that value personal liberation and freedom from alienated labor, is not going to be one that will want a space program.


> Technology does not equal exploitation, or unjust hierarchy. The
> non-sequitir assumption that it does doesn't take into account the fact
> that technology has often freed people from mind-numbing, dehumanizing,
> undesirable toil. And has save dpeople from illness. Must even this kind
> of technology go? How is it exploitative or oppressive?

We're talking about certain forms of technology, Brian, and our relationship to it. Technology is, after all, any form of *tools.* Shovels and forks are technology. So are containers. The question that is staring you in the face is this: why should any anarchist society keep around any technology that is exploitative, alienating, ruinous of the planet, dangerous to health, or simply unnecessary?

It's Day 1 after the anarchist revolution. We are no longer anarchists and we are free people. Who's going to go down into the mines?

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