war and the state (was milton, etc.)

[Yoshie Furuhashi]

>  > Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
>>  >
>>  >> It seems you are not so much opposing what Engels says as quibbling
>>  > with his use of the word "authoritarian," since you don't oppose the
>>  > use of force in self-defense or to "root out wage slavery."
>>  > --
>  > > Yoshie
>  >
>>  A surprising amount of criticism of marx & other marxists is based on
>>  word magic. Some people simply cannot bear, for example, for the words
>>  "value" and "productive" not to carry a moral content. As  when Engels
>>  wrote his fine essay, the world is still filled with people who are more
>>  concerned with the (negative) moral vibration of such terms as
>>  "authority" than with the actual conditions within which struggles to
>>  transform the world must be conducted.
>>
>>  Carrol
>
>====================
>
>What is word magic?
>
>Ian

A (Engels) calls X (workers' use of force to put down those who 
attempt to restore capitalism by force) by the word Y 
(authoritarian); B calls X by the word Z (anti-authoritarian, 
perhaps).  Both A and B think that X is necessary.  Yet B thinks A is 
his mortal enemy, because B doesn't like the word Y.  Magical....
-- 
Yoshie

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