Tahir: This was my original point. CB argued otherwise.
There are lots of sociologists who consider themselves Marxists. To say much more is pretty much a dead end of debate.
Tahir: I'll accept the consensus on that and stop if necessary (but then again maybe I won't). But to say there are lots of sociologists who consider themselves marxist doesn't even come close to my original point. I think there are lots of trade unionists who consider themselves marxist, for example; this doesn't mean that I would go to their trade union publications to learn about marxism.