Dicks n' Dough

sui.generis at myrealbox.com sui.generis at myrealbox.com
Fri Mar 15 18:28:08 PST 2002


At 09:06 PM 3/15/02 -0500, Matt Cramer wrote:


>Hmmmm. As I understand it Marco puts up an archive via hypermail on the
>www. Google crawls it and it can come up in search results, just like any
>other website.

oh you really should SDSTFU. you do NOT know who you are talking to. lose the condescending crap with someone who has been programming, running a network, and other '1eet things longer than you've been out of diapers.

furthermore, doug participated in about two years of heated debate on the Bad Subjects list about whether to archive anything long term. so, those of us here from that debate know that doug knows full well how a significant number of us feel about these issues.

he was aware. furthermore, i've also told him frequently how we could use spidercide and how we can obscure the email addresses so we don't get spam.

but he just doesn't give a shit because he participates in some sort of warped bourgeois consciousness about his ownership of the list.


> > So now I do use a different address,
> > but you've put all my old posts out for googling without my
> > consent. I posted them thinking at most, there would be an
> > archive for subscribers, not whole fucking planet. Thanks a
> > lot.
>
>[...]
>
>You obviously lacked the sophistication to build a secure online pseudonym
>for yourself. Doug's a journalist, not a cypherpunk, so why should he be
>obligated to do it for you?
>
>If you care about your privacy, use a web-based mail thing with few
>connections to your real identity or other online identities that can be
>easily connected to you. If you are worried about billion dollar
>megacorps and gov't secret police tracking you down, your best bet is to
>rely on mathematics. Make a pseudonym with something like
>nym.alias.net and send all your mail PGP encrypted through sets of
>mixmaster remailers. Use an open-source peer-reviewed version of PGP and
>be sure to generate a good amount of noise through the remailers to
>prevent traffic analysis.
>
>None of that is easy, and there is no silver bullet to ensure online
>privacy. But email is a post card, and while it is unfortunate that you
>assumed your postings wouldn't be viewable by all sorts of folks, it was
>an unfounded expectation. It is considered bad form to publicly post
>private email but unless there are X-No-Archive headers in your email to a
>mailing list it is commonplace for it to show up in a web archive.
>
>
>Matt
>
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