I went back to the archives and found that Herman and I went back and forth several times with him and others on the subject of my criticism of one of his posts.
I hardly ran off and hid.
I also said:
"I have tremendous respect for much of what Herman has written over the years, but I have a serious disagreement with him and others over this question [of the reality of clerical fascism].
" I read his letter to not just be about Hitchens, with whom we both disagree about the war, but a swipe at anyone who raised the issue of fascism. There is a difference between saying someone is a supporter of something, and arguing that someone is objectively serving as an apologist for something. I never suggested Herman was a supporter of these groups. His trivialization of the question of fascism serves an as apologia for these groups. He now claims that was not his intent. Fine, but I was responding to he content and tone of his original letter ..."
In my exchange with Herman, it was he who grew increasingly vitriolic, while I began to resort to diagramming his original sentences to show my criticism was based on his actual sentences.
As for my opinion of you, it is just that, an opinion. You reject it. Fine. We disagree.
-Chip Berlet
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> [mailto:owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com]On Behalf Of pradeep
> Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 2:52 PM
> To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> Subject: RE: Russian Israelis
>
>
> Chip Berlet said:
>
> >Dear <pradeep>:
> >
> >I don't know what is more problematic, your glee at the
> prospect of being
> >criticized for slipping into antisemitic stereotypes, or
> your arrogant and
> >juvenile personal attacks on Max.
> >
> >Maybe we can take a vote?
> >
> >-Chip Berlet
>
>
>
> No, no Chip, 'arrogant and juvinile' would be when you
> previously called
> someone an 'idiot' , not for slandering you, but for saying something
> you disagreed with in a previous post.
>
> Now, take 'arrogant and juvenile' and add 'stupid', then we get your
> disgusting attack on Edward S. Herman -- remember, that time Herman
> thouroghly trounced you after you slandered him as being pro-Taliban?
>
> Once again Chip, ever the clueless idiot that youve shown
> yourself to be
> on a wide range of topics, you've decided to claim that i am "slipping
> into antisemitic stereotypes". Hmm . . . now chip this is hardly the
> first time you've made unsubstantiated and/or fucked-up
> claims like this
> about someone or some topic-- now is this because you have
> some sort of
> reading comprehension disorder or are you just that fucking stupid. So
> then point out where i, or anyone on this list for that matter, has
> slipped into anti-semitic caricture. And damn well do it now! -- dont
> run off and hide, like the last time when you were confronted
> by Herman
> for your slanderous insinuations.
>
> Thank god this list is archived -- especially given berlet's
> propensity
> to discredit himself with every post.
>
> -pradeep
>