H. Rap Brown (was Re: Corn transcript)

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Bill, don't be dense. The murder guns were produced in
evidence, and had been found in his car. As with the
DC  snipers, that's normally enough to overcome a
presumption of innocence; a rational jury could take
it as proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. The
speculative possibility that the guns might have been
planted, without any evidence to support it beyond the
fact that sometimes the cops do that, is unlikely to
persuade a rational (not a racist or pro-cop, but a
rational) jury otherwise. It's true that it's hard to
get evidence of a frame-up, but the fact that if your
theory of  defense is a frame-up you need the evidence
doesn't reverse the burden of proof. I do take your
point, that in your view the cops are NEVER to
believed, and NO ONE should ever be convicted, but
it's not a point I agree with. I am, as you know,
extremely conservative, judicially at least. In fact,
I am literally a willing tool of capitalist interests.
This is actually the case, no irony. So pay me no
mind. jks

--- billbartlett at dodo.com.au wrote:
> At 5:42 PM -0500 21/11/02, Yoshie Furuhashi wrote:
> 
> >At 1:36 PM -0800 11/20/02, andie nachgeborenen
> wrote:
> >> > To acquit you'd have to believe
> >>> the guns were planted and
> >>> the defense suggested that but was not really
> able
> >>> to make a strong enough
> >>> case for it.
> >>
> >>Yeah, you have to be able to prove that.
> >
> >True, but it must be exceedingly difficult for
> defense attorneys to 
> >discover evidence to really prove that guns, drugs,
> and the like 
> >were planted by cops.  What are lawyers to do if
> they can't find 
> >unquestionably damning evidence of a frame-up?
> 
> Plead guilty. Since the criminal justice system is
> apparently based 
> on presumption of guilt (Justin asserts, you have to
> prove the guns 
> were planted, so this seems to be the case) and you
> can't prove your 
> innocence, then legally you are guilty whether you
> did it or not.
> 
> Plead guilty and beg for mercy.
> 
> Bill Bartlett
> Bracknell Tas

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