A Pig Returns to the Farm, Thumbing His Snout at Orwell

Peter K. peterk at enteract.com
Wed Nov 27 06:25:12 PST 2002


At 9:56 PM -0600 11/26/02, Peter K. wrote:
>Along with Trosky, many left oppositionists and Troskyists were
>murdered by Stalin. Snowball doesn't come back. The descendants of
>Napoleon transformed into pro-capitalists.

Yoshie: Most of the dissidents -- Trotskyists come neo-cons, Polish Solidarity, etc. -- and descendants of Napoleon became pro-capitalists. Few in today's world think that they can or must create a non-capitalist world. You don't either. ---------- I don't? I'm pro-capitalist when they're in a life and death struggle with feudalists (i.e. those who want to return the world to feudalism). But otherwise, as you said to Shane:

"If "the record" were really extensive, you should be able to find an example or two easily. You can't actually find any opposition on my part to all criticisms of "certain sects lest it cede too much to their opponents," though; I myself have made a criticism or two of just about anything, including what you call "sects." I simply believe criticisms should be fair and accurate, rather than unfair, inaccurate, or without any accompanying evidence."

Also, "most" of the dissidents became pro-capitalist? Quite a generalization. I'd hazard a guess that Stalin eliminated most of them off. (I mean, he went to Mexico to get Trotsky) Another point, there's a difference between being pro-capitalist and thinking "there in no alternative." I don't subscribe to TINA. Why limit our options? Do you agree?

Peter



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