--- Chuck0 <chuck at mutualaid.org> wrote:
> Chuck Grimes wrote:
> > Some history notes on this anti-sex left thread.
>
> > So, I would say that whatever effects could be
> seen as an anti-sex
> > Left are simply a reflection of a much more
> general sort of
> > destruction and deformation wrought by the Right
> and its long campaign
> > to re-Puritanize the US. In overt social and legal
> terms they have
> > more or less won the battle. I would estimate that
> roughly half of
> > what many people do with each for intimacy,
> enjoyment and pleasure is
> > illegal. In other words a significant part of
> human life has been
> > criminalized.
> >
> > That is the overt battle. Since it is probably
> impossible to discover
> > what actually goes on and what people actually
> think and do in these
> > realms, thanks to the massive formal repressions,
> I just assume most
> > people have gotten used to either lying or
> remaining silent. Modesty
> > as a public face is essentially political
> protection.
> >
> > So yes, it would be nice to celebrate a
> sex-positive Left, except for
> > the fact most of it is illegal.
> >
> > We were Talibanized a long time ago and wear our
> burkas on the inside,
> > thanks to the fanatically vicious rightwing
> reactionary
> > Christian-crappola we've been oppressed by for
> last twenty years.
> >
> > And BTW, Anthony, stop apologizing. It's
> embarrassing.
>
> I don't buy into these pessimistic conclusions. Yes,
> the Religious Right
> tired for many decades to Talibanize Americna
> society, with some success, but
> ultimately they lost that campaign.
>
> You talk about stuff that is illegal, yet how many
> of us can cite a recent
> example of somebody being prosecuted for their
> sexual practices. There may be
> some laws on the books, but you are more likely to
> get a speeding ticket than
> be arrested for sodomy or having a pornographic
> magazine. What's more, sexual
> materials are widely available, including on the TV
> now.
>
> I'm not sure if there have been any studies done on
> this, but I'm betting
> that the Internet has had a lot to do with defeating
> the Religious Right.
>
> And where is Dr. Laura these days?
>
> Chuck0
>
>
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