Anniversary

billbartlett at dodo.com.au billbartlett at dodo.com.au
Wed Sep 18 02:24:47 PDT 2002


Grant Lee wrote:


>Sorry for interrupting ...

That's OK, discussing things on a public list means you deserve to get interrupted.


>Is it possible that we, as "leftists", should be
>considering that thing called class, before we get into (reactionary)
>generalisations about whole nationalities?

Well, you can avoid the issue if you want. I'm always happy to talk about class.


>This cuts both ways:
>
>1. It was mostly working class people who suffered the consequences of 9-11;

Its mostly working class people who get to vote in the US.


>what does it achieve to tell them they "deserved" it?

What does it achieve to lie to them and say that US foreign policy is not their responsibility?


> Who "deserved" it
>more, the white collar workers on the 50th floor or the immigrant cleaners
>at ground level?

Probably the people working in the Pentagon.


>Nationalisms and their inverse, national insults, make great weapons for the
>ruling class. I don't think this is PC pedantry; I think it's common sense
>proletarian politics.

Telling people the foreign policy of their government will have no consequences for them and that they aren't responsible for the government they elect doesn't exactly create problems for the ruling class either. So let's give the truth a try will we?

Bill Bartlett Bracknell Tas



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