[lbo-talk] Vive La France?

loupaulsen at attbi.com loupaulsen at attbi.com
Thu Apr 10 08:57:31 PDT 2003


Are you serious about this? You are comparing the -government of France- to Jews oppressed by the Nazis, or to the government of Iraq in the gunsights of the Pentagon?

I know the NY Post has an editorial today entitled "On to Paris!", but SERIOUSLY. You feel called upon to organize an international solidarity movement to defend Jacques Chirac from persecution?!

The people you are really afraid of shaking up are those sections of the left who got led into the whole Francophile thing during the Security Council debates and haven't found their way out yet. Well, they SHOULD be shaken up. Anyone who thinks the ruling class of France is functioning as a 'peace force' TODAY is in a dream world! They are a jackal trying to sneak a piece of the carcass away from the lion.

LP
> Lou:
> >
> > Some reasonable questions might have been, "You believe that
> > the thing to do
> > now with respect to the illegal invasion of Iraq is to put
> > the past behind us,
> > look to future cooperation, etc. Would it have been good to
> > apply a similar
> > policy to the German unilateralist actions in France in 1940?
> > Or, if that is
> > ancient history, to the Iraqi unilateralist actions in Kuwait
> > in 1990? On
> > those occasions a 'coalition of the willing' was put together
> > to oust the
> > aggressor. Would your government be willing to join such a
> > coalition to oust
> > the aggressor today? If not, why not? How large and fleshy
> > a bone do you
> > think Bush will throw you?"
>
>
> Perhaps in Paris ca 1958, but certainly not in Baltimore, MD ca 2003.
> That would be reminiscent of a hypothetical German Leftie ca 1930
> criticising the Rotschilds for being capitalist swine. Or, for that
> matter, an Israeli Likudnik criticising Saddam Hussein for disregarding
> UN resolutions.
>
> Autre temps, autre moeurs - as the French say. A good antidote to Lefty
> ideological rigidity and grandstanding.
>
> Wojtek



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