Yesterday's business pgs. in the SF Chronicle had a story on a software company that helps indigenious human rights/labor/social justice organizers collect data on human rights abuses and killings, send it via PGP to servers @ groups like HRW from countries like Mynmar aka Burma ruled by slave masters of SLORC.
During the run up to the NATO bombings of Serbia I subbed for a while to Kominform by a Heikki Sippila, who is pals w/Vancouver Stalinoid Macdonald Stainsby, much enamored w/Mrs. Milosevic. She would send the serbian Foreign Ministry press releases. Milosevic inked a contract with the Burmese regime.
Yoshie, Proyect sends nasty letters to Aryeh Neier and Joanne Landy of the Campaign for Peace and Democracy. Doug signed a CPD petition recdently. Was that entered into Lou's and your dossier of counter-revolutionary opinion? Michael Pugliese
On Tue, 15 Apr 2003 14:24:52 -0400, Nathan Newman <nathanne at nathannewman.org> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yoshie Furuhashi" <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu>
>
>
> Nathan says:
>> So what if dissident groups in Cuba get money from a foreign power.
>> So did the CPUSA. Did that justify McCarthyism?
>
> -Receiving money from a foreign power makes you subordinate to the
> -said foreign power.
>
> That may be true, although not receiving the money or help often makes
> you
> subordinate to your own government. It's often a bad set of options and
> I
> have little criticism of the ANC for accepting help from any foreign
> governments in their struggle against Apartheid. When you are fighting
> your own government, even non-violently, getting the resources to do so
> is
> often very hard since the local elite has most resources. "Outside
> money"
> is often needed-- whether its unions helping out local unions, "outside
> agitators" being sent into the civil rights movement, and so on.
>
>> To repeat, any "democratic left" petition critical of the Cuban
>> government's harsh sentencing of Cuban "dissidents" should criticize
>> US funding of the said dissidents, as it is not good for Cuba, the
>> "dissidents" in question, and the USA.
>
> I'll happily condemn it generally in regards to US funding but not in
> this
> petition, since it would imply that the repression against the activists
> was
> somehow justified because they received outside money. They are two
> different issues and one has little to do with the other.
>
> -- Nathan Newman
>
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