[lbo-talk] Doomed

[andie nachgeborenen]

Well, Kells, I don't get it, so plaese pardon me for
being a bit slow here. You say the kinds of
psycho-sexual problems we are dealing with here can't
really be addressed by counselling, even for those who
can afford it, and are beyond the scope of any
individual or even any couple to change by themselves
because they are due to large scale social forces. I
add in the premise that there is not much any
individual or couple can do about these forces, and we
are like to be living with them for some time. So if
that's not a dark outlook, what is it? What are you
saying that I am not correctly understanding? I'm
asking because I respect your insight and I know you
have given these maters serious thought. jks

--- Kelley <the-squeeze at pulpculture.org> wrote:
> At 10:44 AM 8/10/03 -0700, andie nachgeborenen
> scribbled:
> 
> >. counseling can
> > > help them
> > > understand and can help them negotiate ways to
> deal
> > > with the situation,
> > > but the real problem is never addressed. that
> > > problem can only be
> > > addressed by systemtic changes that individuals,
> > > alone or as part of a
> > > couple/family, aren't going to change.
> >
> >In other words, we're doomed. Who said you get to
> be
> >happy or even not miserable. Devote yourself to the
> >revo, and reconcile yourself to personal
> crucifixion,
> >frustration, misery. That's a lotta help doll.
> Maybe
> >yer right, but it's a dark fucking prescription.
> 
> and maybe you're given to purposeful misreadings and
> attempts to paint 
> your interlocutor as having a position they don't
> hold. like the way 
> yoshie treats you.
> 
> knock it off.
> 
> >There
> >is an infinite amount of hope . . . but not for us.
> >Smooches to you too. jks
> 
> grow up.
> 
> 
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