[lbo-talk] Intellectuals: The Leo-conservatives -

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I was talking about intellectual/academic movements.
Marcuse and the Frankfurters are hardly words to
conjure with in the street, haven't been for 40 years.
They aren't influential with politicians in major
parties as far as I know, except maybe the German
Greens. I would be surprised if many American
politicians had even heard of them. The LPs -- though
perhaps not by name -- are still very influential in
the social sciences and business, where there ideas go
by the name of "scientific method." Of course the
Franks have some cachet in cultural studies, but we
move(d) in different worlds. I never had much to do
with Lit/Cult Studies folks, and I did circulate in
philosophy and socisl science worlds. Course now I
just do law. jks

--- dave dorkin <ddorkin1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Perhaps you mean something else by movement or are
> switching between political and
> intellectual/academic
> senses. If you are talking about some key
> politicians
> who are in a major party, fine but certainly there
> is
> no point in even considering logical positivism
> either
> in that case.
> 
> Besides Wolfie and that handful, there are just a
> few
> academics and other assorted hacks who are
> influenced
> by Strauss and you could easily go through
> university
> without hearing of them ever. On the other hand,
> tons
> of people (both academics and students) read Marcuse
> et al still today. Certainly a major part and reason
> why we have all these critical theory departments
> etc.
> which have impacted several disciplines and are
> present in just about every university. Their books
> are in university bookstores and on reading lists
> all
> over. 
> 
> --- andie nachgeborenen  
> > Frankfurters, though influential, did not
> establish
> > a  movement, much less one that became widespread;
> (c) same with Arendt.  But (d) the logical
> positivists, some of whom, like my teacher Carl
> Hempel, were  German, were emigrants and did
> establish
> a movement that becvame widespread in the US -- as I
> remarked.
> 
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