[lbo-talk] Intellectuals: The Leo-conservatives -

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At this point, there seems to be little to say, our
experiences differ. At my Law School there wasn't a
critical legal theory class, but you no doubt went to
a tonier school than I. Ohio State is an excellent law
school, but very much a "trade" school. It had a legal
theory class, but purely mainstream. My experiences at
Michigan in grad school (philosophy and political
science) were pretty much that I was about the only
person I knew in my programs who had read Marcuse,
except for one guy in the philosophy dept who had
briefly been a Spart. A couple of my professors had
probably read him at one point. He aws not assigned in
any class that I can recall. When I was teaching at
Ohio State, there was another prof who was also a sort
of commie, he had read Marcuse too. My friends in biz
might have heard of Marcuse, I never asked, but they
sure had heard of LP -- not under that description,
but just like in Michigan polisci, the LP's main
theories of explanation and confirmation were called
"scientific method." Your experience is different. I
would not be surprised if Marcuse outsold Strauss even
today, when Marcuse is no longer hip. Strauss never
was hip of course. I would be surprised if the LPs
ever sold particularly well, Ayer aside, who was not a
German of course. I don't know why we deteriorated
into this exercise into one-upsmanship, but I'm
stopping it now. It's boring. jks

--- dave dorkin <ddorkin1 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I studied social science, business and most recently
> law and cant recall hearing LP mentioned much at all
> and Strauss even less.
>  
> On the other hand, Marcuse et al even come up
> clearly
> by name and readings are assigned in critical legal
> theory courses and survey texts regularly. As for
> the
> street, Marcuse sells way more trade paperbacks than
> Strauss could ever hope to and continues to be
> reprinted. If you want to include their impact not
> by
> name necessarily as you say, it becomes hard to say
> much at all in any direction. I would imagine that
> perception depends some on the specific areas and
> departments with which one deals at the university. 
> 
> --- andie nachgeborenen > 
> > I was talking about intellectual/academic
> movements.
> > Marcuse and the Frankfurters are hardly words to
> > conjure with in the street, haven't been for 40
> > years.The LPs -- though perhaps not by name -- are
> still very influential in the social sciences and
> business, where there ideas  go by the name of
> "scientific method." Of course the Franks have some
> cachet in cultural studies, but we move(d) in
> different worlds. I never had much to do with
> Lit/Cult
> Studies folks, and I did circulate in
> > philosophy and socisl science worlds. Course now I
> > just do law. jks
> 
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