[lbo-talk] Fwd: [cultstud-l] Sokal & Bricmont or Lenin?

[andie nachgeborenen]

Sure: Lenin is a scientific realist. Lenin was a
Bolshevik. Sokak & Bricmont are scientific realists.
Therefore S & B are Bolsheviks. It follows, you see.
Of course to make it follow you have to use a
nonstandard logic where affirming the consequent isn't
a fallacy, but if you chuck realism, anything is
possible. OInce we are not under the guns of the
Communists, we can deny the existence of the external
world and revel in relativism. Except for Communism.
That is objectively BAD. Are we clear on everything
now? jks

--- Gregory Geboski <greg at mail.unionwebservices.com>
wrote:
> I went quickly and only got 58%; this is probably
> within the bounds of pure chance. I assumed Lenin
> would write the pithier of two matched statements.
> Not true. A tiny bit interesting.
> 
> What strikes me more is that this Simkin fellow
> apparently assumes (and assumes that his readers
> will assume) that finding parallels with Lenin's
> thought is prima facie evidence for dismissing Sokal
> and Bricemont. Is this the intellectual standard for
> critical studies types? If so, can Lynne Cheney stop
> pickin' on 'em now?
> 
> ---------- Original Message
> ----------------------------------
> From: Jim Farmelant <farmelantj at juno.com>
> Reply-To: lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
> Date:  Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:24:39 -0400
> 
> >
> >
> >On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 18:12:55 -0400 Doug Henwood
> <dhenwood at panix.com>
> >writes:
> >> From: "Michael Simkin"
> <simkin_michael at hotmail.com>
> >> To: "CULTSTUD-L: A listserv devoted to Cultural
> Studies" 
> >> <cultstud-l at lists.acomp.usf.edu>
> >> Subject: [cultstud-l] Sokal & Bricmont or Lenin?
> >> Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 18:45:04 -0700
> >> X-URL:
>
<http://www.cas.usf.edu/communication/rodman/cultstud/>
> >> 
> >> Dear Collegues,
> >> 
> >> some of  you are probably familiar with the book
> "Fashionable 
> >> Nonsense" by
> >> Sokal & Bricmont (the book grew out of the
> celebrated Sokal hoax).
> >> I read this book recently and was stricken by the
> similarity of this 
> >> writing
> >> to one of those books that I was forced to read
> in Soviet Union. 
> >> Namely
> >> "Materialism and Empirio-Criticism" by Lenin. I
> read Lenin's book 
> >> again
> >> (this time not under the gun of a Communist) and
> wrote the following 
> >> quiz:
> >> 
> >> http://www.ee.ucla.edu/~simkin/sokalenin.html
> ...
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