>This seems to support the position of those of us who say it is the
>U.S.'s presence , not its absence or departure, that makes "chaos" ( uh oh,
>better call James Bond ) in Iraq.
The U.S. destroyed a state that permeated every aspect of Iraqi life. It was hard for institutions to exist outside the Ba'athist structure. As Boris Kagarlitsky once said of the USSR, people related politically to the state and not to each other. Having destroyed that - what's left? Christian said that one of the few seriously left secular parties wants the US out, but the UN in. Why isn't that good enough for you? You know better?
Doug