[lbo-talk] Re: The postmodern prince

Michael Dawson -PSU mdawson at pdx.edu
Fri Dec 5 15:44:44 PST 2003


Quite an orrery of errors you've assembled!


> I think the entire rhetorical strategy of false consciousness

"False consciousness?" Who said anything about this regrettable, stillborn phrase from Lenin? To say that your sense of identity is exploited and manipulated isn't necessarily to say you're a mindless robot. And I don't say that. Never have, never will.


> authenticity has outlived it's historical function. Full stop.

So, you don't believe that people's self-development should be left up to them, to the maximum extent possible?


> Everyone is always already intervening in each other's self-perceptions;
> there is no unmediated self-perception.

Again, who said there was? Meanwhile, does the sociality of human selves mean that manipulation and exploitation are indistinguishable from other kinds of interactions? That's nihilism. I also don't believe that's what anybody actually thinks, either. You'd have a pretty screwed up life, if you really believed this.

Exploitation in the labor process
> and the system of property and contract that make it possible

Make what possible? Self-identity? That's just silly.

while
> definitely needing to be put back on the cultural 'radar screen' for the
> sake of collective action-transmutation, are just not seen as key
> determinants of people's self-perception.

So, if it's not seen, it's not real? Nihilism again.

The US war machine is owned by
> the US citizenry,

I guess you're saying there are no social classes in the U.S.?

do you feel like a proud owner of that in the same way
> you feel a proud owner of the Grand Canyon, say? Or do you enjoy your own
> deconstruction of your identification as a US citizen so that you unown
> those entities?

I don't believe in nations, since you're asking. I favor world government, with large, medium, and small subordinate levels of government.

As if there were a final, objectively true theory of
> property and contract..........

Huh? More nihilism, I think...


> > socialism.
>
> ==================
>
> Please be more specific as to the content of the last term in the
> sentence.

Socialism: the form of society in which all decisions, including major economic investment decisions, are governed by democracy.



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