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Doug Henwood dhenwood at panix.com
Wed Dec 17 11:12:55 PST 2003


Yay! A post to this list made it onto Front Page <http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=11361>. Here's the context:


>Saddam in Jail; Leftists Wail
>By Greg Yardley
>FrontPageMagazine.com | December 17, 2003
>The morning I heard Saddam Hussein was captured, I was awakened by a
>low murmur I couldn't quite place. When I read the good news for
>the first time, I immediately realized what it must be - the
>collective of far-left anti-war protestors wailing and gnashing
>their teeth.
>
>
>
>Sure enough, the first thing I found when I sat down to look were
>leftists bemoaning the news, since they believed Hussein's capture
>would improve President Bush's re-election chances.

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>marc rodrigues lbo-talk at lbo-talk.org
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>(i might have mistakenly sent a blank message to the list, sorry)
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>Chuck0 wrote:
>
>As with most things in American politics, this is about more than
>just
>the U.S. "getting their man." This is also about the war on
>the left, if
>you look closely at how the right wing spins this. The Free Republic
>this morning has more stuff bashing Democrats and leftists than it
>does
>stuff about a dictator being overthrown. It would be easy to dismiss
>Free Republic as just being the extreme of the right, but even my
>father
>asked me this morning "What's the Left's take on this?"
>This was not a
>friendly question.
>
>The war on terrorism, the war in Iraq, and the American drive for
>Empire
>is just as much about defeating the left as it is about other stuff.
>
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>
>I think Chuck0 is right on the money here. My initial reaction to
>hearing this news, as ashamed I am to admit it, was "oh, shit, he's
>(bush) gonna get re-elected." It's a similar feeling I had on the
>day the statue came down- I'm glad it happened for the Iraqi people,
>but really worried on what effect it will have on domestic politics,
>the empire-building policies, the discrediting of the "anti-war
>movement." I mean, what's our argument now? And even though I'm no
>fan of the Dems or electoral politics for that matter, what's Dean's
>argument gonna be? I imagine it hasn't changed much, and as some
>have mentioned, we should point out the complicity of certain U.S.
>officials in the horrors commited by Hussein. But damn, I just feel
>like our whole take on the war and occupation has just been knocked
>flat on its ass-- maybe only temporarily-- and will become even more
>irrelevant in the face of "yea, we got him, we're the good guys,
>look at the Iraqis celebrating" triumphalism.
> What does this mean for the UFPJ March 20th protests? I guess
>we'll have to wait and see. To make a long story short, why do I
>feel so shitty about something I should feel happy about?
>
>p.s. i thought it was pretty interesting watching a small group of
>celebrating Iraqis on fox news waving red flags with hammer and
>sickles on them...



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