[lbo-talk] Old Left v WSF etc

Chuck0 chuck at mutualaid.org
Thu Dec 25 10:55:30 PST 2003


Doug Henwood wrote:


> Check out the ESF links I posted the other day. The CPGB writer, Tina
> Becker, talks about how parties as such are excluded, but Alex
> Callinicos & the rest of the Brit SWP are all over the place as
> individuals. And Massimo de Angelis has an interesting piece, which I'm
> not sure how much I agree with, on the virtues of plurivocality at the
> Commoner link.
>
> CPGB on ESF: <http://www.cpgb.org.uk/esf/>.
>
> Commoner: <http://www.commoner.org.uk/>.
>
> All this touches on some of the reasons I started this list in the first
> place - I think all these strands of the left should talk to each other,
> though I'm not sure how much or well they can all work together.

I'm skeptical that most of the anti-capitalist movement--which generally abhors vanguardism and hierarchy--is going to participate in something that is dominated by the British SWP. We all know their methods pretty well. The ESF suit them because they are all talk and no action. ANd like most vanguardist groups, they are mroe than willing to seize the microphone to take credit for the work of other groups and political tendencies.

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