The Lerner Affair

Michael Pugliese debsian at pacbell.net
Fri Feb 14 08:35:52 PST 2003


To follow up on Nathan's point, is it anti-semitic to deny Israel's right to exist in pre-'67 borders, after the Settlements have been dismantled in a (More) than Slightly Imaginary Israel? (Robert Heilbroner had a piece in Dissent once where he coined, "A Slightly Imaginary Sweden, for those that see socialism as a deepening of the Swedish model, which the Meidner Plan would have represented.)

My blast at Chris Kromm last yr. was motivated by my perception that the more hard core pro-Palestinian advocates, who support groups such as the Al-Aqsa Brigades and the PFLP, DFLP, PFLP-GC (support for Islamic Jihad, Hizbollah, Hamas, not found anywhere on the US Left) who target civilian not miltary targets, and manipulate the rage and despair of teenagers to undertake, "martydom operations, " aka suicide bombings, has two or three motivations, in my view. Anger, which we all share, at the occupation and oppression/poverty of the Palestinian masses (oops, Thomas ;-), residual romanticization of armed struggles rooted in the memories of the just struggles of the NLF, the Algerians, FDR-FMLN, FSLN, July 26th (Cuba).

One argument commonly found on Zionist websites, is that leftists who support the national self-determination of every other ethno-national goup, but deny it to Jews, are anti-semites. Polemics comrades. I repeat that, my own pov (I can come off as a cadre of the PFLP when I've argued with right- wing Zionists, on most left fora, I get tagged as a Zionist, though in my mind, I hold views similiar to say Benny Morris, the historian who demolished the mythologies around '48. (Which got more folks who would have never listened to/read, Edward Said's, "Zionism From The Standpoint of It's Victims, " originally in Social Text in a very early issue and collected in, "The Question of Palestine, " Random House/Vintage.

-- Michael Pugliese

"Without knowing that we knew nothing, we went on talking without listening to

each other. Sometimes we flattered and praised each other, understanding that

we would be flattered and praised in return. Other times we abused and shouted

at each other, as if we were in a madhouse." -Tolstoy



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