Which, to me, is quite an absurdity, given the nature of "religion" in the context of Marxism.
It seems as if one has forgotten that because of Marx, one can proceed with a curiosity of the world in the same tradition as all other scientists who have done so before. There are some texts in regards to Marxism that are basically useless-or rather Marx's thought on some of his observations in which they can be properly disregarded as such and where Marx ended, Lenin picked up-especially in the nature of capitalism and imperialism. This reminds me of the title of Stephen Hawking titled one of his books "Standing on the shouldiers of Giants" or something akin to that.
Of course no one reveres "Einstein" as they do Marx or Lenin-for one thing, Einstein was nothing BUT a physicist just as Schroedinger or Newton or fit any scientist here. And even in Marxist circles-such as the Frankfurt schools of thought [ie Herbert Marcuse] are not regarded as highly as Marx or Lenin-and that is because-although they were considered themselves "Marxists" they were not revolutionaries, those who engaged in the real world-rather than just observing-those who have seen themselves as being part of the world and having a role in it. Marx was more than just a "scientist", he was also a social and political scientist, in which all things and objects are related and they have relationships.
As a "scientist" [which I don't doubt you are], your aim is what concerns me, because it is directed at Marxists-and not the real world nor at the issues that are at stake in this world.
----- Original Message ----- From: "budge" <budge at el-pleasant.org> To: <lbo-talk at lists.panix.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:57 PM Subject: Re: Vanishing Marxism on LBO-talk
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2003 at 11:42pm soil ride wrote:
> >
> > Comparing Marxism to religion?
>
> you betcha.
>
> > A classic example of one observing Marxism rather than Marx.
>
> i, like most scientists, observe what is there to be observed...
>
> > For it is the method of Marx that is Marxism...a guide to
> > action in the real world. Not idealistic and or lofty
> > notions that we have in our heads about the world-or even
> > about Marx or Marxists [for that matter]
>
> whatever. i noticed how you clipped the part of my post
> that indicated *i* think marx would puke listening to many
> of the self-identified marxists that ooze their pus around
> the place. if you can read carefully, you will notice i
> said nothing to criticize marx or marxian theory, my aim was
> at some so-called Marxists. you might have noticed my
> liberal use of quotation marks. (now i imagine i will be
> accused of being pomo...)
>
>
>
> --
> no Onan
>