Helen Thomas vs. Ari Fleischer

Yoshie Furuhashi furuhashi.1 at osu.edu
Wed Jan 8 16:19:30 PST 2003


At 3:44 PM -0800 1/8/03, Ian Murray wrote:
>Golly, I'm learning so much today. If you lived in Kuwait, Yemen, Saudi
>Arabia or the UAE in 1991 I seriously doubt you would say Iraq posed no
>threat.

I don't know why you are asking questions about the past before Iraq got disarmed by the war, economic sanctions, and UN weapons inspections.

Even in 1991, though, it was not the Arabs but the US that was mainly gunning for the war. It's interesting that you mention Yemen among the nations allegedly threatened by Iraq's invasion of Kuwait. Yemen cast the lone dissenting vote in the Security Council against the Gulf War. A US official reportedly told Yemen's representative: "That's the most expensive 'no' vote you'll ever cast." Three days later, the US cut off its entire aid budget of about $70 million to Yemen.

At 3:44 PM -0800 1/8/03, Ian Murray wrote:
>I notice you didn't answer my question.

What question? Whether or not Iraq's invasion of Kuwait was justified? That has nothing to do with the current US war on Iraq. It had nothing to do with the Gulf War either. That one country invaded another was never a reason enough for the US to launch a war. It can only be a pretext.

At 3:44 PM -0800 1/8/03, Ian Murray wrote:
>There's no such thing as a political threat without military means
>to back it up.

A political threat with military means to back it up may be a bigger threat, but the US has acted to suppress many political threats that lacked military means, internally and externally. Toward bigger threats with military means to back them up (e.g., the USSR, China), the US was much more diplomatic.

At 3:44 PM -0800 1/8/03, Ian Murray wrote:
>Sweden has a lack of current military capacity, you don't see the US
>bothering them, heh?

I don't recall Sweden getting in the way of US policy either.

At 3:44 PM -0800 1/8/03, Ian Murray wrote:
>The Iraq crisis was manufactured to slow down, if not derail, the
>global justice movement which had been given a big gift horse called
>the millenium bubble and the Enron/WorldCom etc. "scandal" which
>exposed for all the world to see that the cowboy capitalism of the
>US is totally corrupt and in need of replacement. Now the US
>capitalists have to use militarism/nihilism to change the subject
>and thanks to the lapdogs in the corporate media, have largely
>gotten away with it so far.

I doubt that they consciously manufactured the so-called Iraq crisis in response to corporate scandals and the "global justice movement," as Bushies had long been planning to do something like this, even before they got into power. In any case, what's your point? -- Yoshie

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