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-----Original Message----- From: owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com [mailto:owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com]On Behalf Of Chip Berlet Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:07 PM To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com Subject: RE: Is Gitlin <agent baiting deleted>
Hi,
As a matter of principle, even though I disagree with Gitlin, this thread that agent-baits him in unethical and repulsive. Even repeating the header is not defnsible.
-Chip <not a deep cover CIA agent run by Dulles and Bundy> Berlet
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> [mailto:owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com]On Behalf Of Max B. Sawicky
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:49 PM
> To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> Subject: RE: Is Gitlin on FBI payroll?
>
>
> I listened to it with an ear and a half and it didn't
> seem to be any big deal.
>
> Git says a more middle-class message would be more effective
> than ANSWER's stew of half-baked radical bromides. Well
> of course it would. If only Git and his friends could summon
> up a mighty demo of that type. Even so, he didn't say people
> should not go to ANSWER demos. He didn't piss on the anti-war
> movement, broadly speaking.
>
> One issue is whether you use the war to build the left, or
> you build the left by stopping the war. I would guess most
> people here would opt for the latter.
>
> I mentioned that there are few real groups of any heft in
> the ANSWER configuration. There would seem to be no obstacle
> to beefing up the alternative formations (United for Peace,
> etc.). The only question is how that can get done.
>
> mbs
>
>
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>
> Todd Gitlin, still riding the laurels of being SDS prez in,
> what, 1963? has
> now officially become an enemy of the movement. Listened to
> him on NPR's
> Fresh Aire tonight. Absolutely disgusting. Instead of lauding
> the growing
> and powerful anti-war movement, astonishingly enough he spent
> all of his
> time bashing IAC and Answer. One of their big crimes,
> apparently, is that
> they are too critical of Israel.
>
> What an ass. Let him join Hitchens in the ranks of the
> right-wing has-beens.
> They have no place anywhere near our movement. If The Nation,
> Mother Jones,
> The Progressive, or any other kindred publication gives him
> one more inch of
> column space, they will have lost ALL credibility among the
> growing anti-war
> movement.
>