Good deal, now lets resume bashing Gitlin in ways that he so amply deserves.
:-)
-Chip
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> [mailto:owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com]On Behalf Of Max B. Sawicky
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:29 PM
> To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> Subject: RE: Is Gitlin <agent baiting deleted>
>
>
> I agree. I took the header as a sign of pique, but
> it's not good to joke about these things. Bad chris!
> For being too lazy to change the header, bad max!
>
> mbs
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> [mailto:owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com]On Behalf Of Chip Berlet
> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 10:07 PM
> To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> Subject: RE: Is Gitlin <agent baiting deleted>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> As a matter of principle, even though I disagree with Gitlin,
> this thread
> that agent-baits him in unethical and repulsive. Even
> repeating the header
> is not defnsible.
>
> -Chip <not a deep cover CIA agent run by Dulles and Bundy> Berlet
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> > [mailto:owner-lbo-talk at lists.panix.com]On Behalf Of Max B. Sawicky
> > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 8:49 PM
> > To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> > Subject: RE: Is Gitlin on FBI payroll?
> >
> >
> > I listened to it with an ear and a half and it didn't
> > seem to be any big deal.
> >
> > Git says a more middle-class message would be more effective
> > than ANSWER's stew of half-baked radical bromides. Well
> > of course it would. If only Git and his friends could summon
> > up a mighty demo of that type. Even so, he didn't say people
> > should not go to ANSWER demos. He didn't piss on the anti-war
> > movement, broadly speaking.
> >
> > One issue is whether you use the war to build the left, or
> > you build the left by stopping the war. I would guess most
> > people here would opt for the latter.
> >
> > I mentioned that there are few real groups of any heft in
> > the ANSWER configuration. There would seem to be no obstacle
> > to beefing up the alternative formations (United for Peace,
> > etc.). The only question is how that can get done.
> >
> > mbs
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Todd Gitlin, still riding the laurels of being SDS prez in,
> > what, 1963? has
> > now officially become an enemy of the movement. Listened to
> > him on NPR's
> > Fresh Aire tonight. Absolutely disgusting. Instead of lauding
> > the growing
> > and powerful anti-war movement, astonishingly enough he spent
> > all of his
> > time bashing IAC and Answer. One of their big crimes,
> > apparently, is that
> > they are too critical of Israel.
> >
> > What an ass. Let him join Hitchens in the ranks of the
> > right-wing has-beens.
> > They have no place anywhere near our movement. If The Nation,
> > Mother Jones,
> > The Progressive, or any other kindred publication gives him
> > one more inch of
> > column space, they will have lost ALL credibility among the
> > growing anti-war
> > movement.
> >
>
>