would you mind passing this on to LBO-talk? -t
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when doug asked me what was up with this i had no idea what he was talking about. then he forwarded it to me, and i was flabbergasted. if it had been introduced in another way (say, without the headers) i could have been half-convinced that i *had* written it. so maybe that makes me cartoonish; but modesty forbids me from interpreting that as making me special. on the contrary, as the sits would have said if they'd had a sense of humor, We Are All Cartoons. which, i believe, is the point. only a twit would feel ashamed of that, par- ticularly in a conversation in which marxism is taken seriously.
anyway, kelley's Right and yoshie -- who i haven't burnt a calorie thinking about in years -- is Wrong. worse, she's Wrong in a *very* special that's completely and historically inexcusable.
cheers, t
> >Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:43:59 -0500
> >To: lbo-talk at lists.panix.com
> >From: Kelley <jimmyjames at softhome.net>
> >Subject: Re: "Empire as a Way of Life"
> >
> >At 11:29 AM 1/10/03 -0600, Jeffrey Fisher wrote:
> >>here comes the yoshie article-snippet-bombardment.
> >>
> >>for someone so disdainful of information as a force, you certainly
> >>have a penchant for info warfare.
> >
> >I miss ted, not that he posted enough as it was....
> >
> >> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2000 20:18:33 -0500
> >> From: Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu>
> >
> >
> >> Every day, LBO-talkers, academic or non-academic, collectively &
> >> empirically demonstrate Thomas Hobbes' proposition that nature hath made
> >> men equal, especially in the faculty of the mind. A more effective &
> >> practical refutation of apologies for inequality (such as Charles
> >> Murray's)
> >> than this cannot be found anywhere. Therefore, I'd say that the regular
> >> LBO contributors are daily rendering a modest service to humanity.
> >
> >
> >i read this on saturday, and the bee it put up my butt is still
> >buzzing around happily, a-tippling on the nectar that pervades
> >its new home. unfortunately, i find it rather less comfortable,
> >and so i must evict it.
> >
> >
> >when i close my eyes, i see yoshie as a stretch armstrong-like
> >action figure, so supple must she be to pat herself on the back
> >in this fashion. if filtering out over-limit messages, relent-
> >lessly bombarding a list with conspicuous exercises in 'connoi-
> >seurship' in the form of interminable ****ing quotations, and
> >generally seeking to dominate and subjugate open discussions to
> >her Inexorable Will is a 'modest service to humanity,' then i'm
> >alan greenspam.
> >
> >
> >how about this: her hostility to psychonalysis, rather than the
> >fragile house of philosophical cards she fobs it off as, is in
> >fact a far more humdrum terror at the kind of humility and com-
> >fort with ambiguity borne of a self-examination that sees Will
> >as, above all, a symptom: not exclusively so, but primarily so.
> >of course, to anyone willing to view him- or herself as anything
> >less than a prince(ss) of thought, to acknowledge such a possi-
> >bility is first and foremost an act of dignifying legitimation;
> >but i suspect this Central Truth of psychoanalysis and its prog-
> >eny will be lost on the tireseom ideologues who oppose it 'on
> >principle.'
> >
> >
> >sorry for the ad hominem; but anyone who so lacks in circumspec-
> >tion is Really Asking For It. stick that in your arse and smoke
> >it, o language microfascists. but make sure your reading of my
> >metaphors doesn't occlude the marxist understanding of class.
> >
> >
> >cheers,
> >t
> >-
> >http://squawk.ca/lbo-talk/0002/0475.html
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