[lbo-talk] A Call from the Maoists of Iran

andie nachgeborenen andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 1 16:29:15 PDT 2003


Sounds a lot like Russia, actually . . . . jks

--- Jonathan Lassen <jjlassen at chinastudygroup.org>
wrote:
> Chris,
> 
> Mao is utterly despised by most intellectuals in
> China, although most of 
> their ire is usually directed at
> post-anti-rightist-movement (1957) Mao. 
> Some still admire and respect the fact he actually
> led a revolution which 
> kicked out the colonial powers and the KMT, and did
> away with the landed 
> aristocracy.
> 
> The CCP of course can't entirely repudiate Mao in
> word, as they stand on 
> the Maoist legacy to a large extent. But in deed
> they've done their best.
> 
> Very different picture among farmers and workers.
> You'll find lots of 
> nostalgia there. Mao is used as a foil to protest
> the corruption, 
> arbitrariness and powerlessness that people
> experience daily. How 
> widespread? I have no idea. But workers in northeast
> China carried 
> portraits of Mao when they demonstrated. I have no
> doubt that Mao - with 
> his emphasis on egalitarianism, collectivism,
> self-sacrifice and solidarity 
> - will continue to be a resource that people draw on
> in their struggles.
> 
> At least that's my take,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> 
> 
> At 05:06 2003-7-1, you wrote:
> >>From: Thomas Seay <entheogens at yahoo.com>
> >
> >>Chiang,
> >
> >>Mao once said that Stalin was 85% good, 15% bad. 
> That
> >>should be some indication of his orientation, no? 
> Or
> >>do you defend Stalin as well?
> >---
> >Well, that opinion is rather widespread in Russia.
> You can make a 
> >perfectly rational cost-benefit analysis and argue
> that Stalin was good 
> >for the country (note that you cannot do so with
> Hitler). I don't agree 
> >with it, but people who make the argument are
> hardly kooky and they do 
> >have a lot of good points.
> >
> >What is Mao's popularity in China? Does anybody
> know?
> >
>
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