[lbo-talk] How close was it?

Mike Ballard swillsqueal at yahoo.com.au
Tue Jul 1 17:48:17 PDT 2003


Yeah, it was closer than we might like to think. If Hitler had taken Moscow _or_ Leningrad in the winter of 42-43, if the drive for the Caucauses had succeeded, if Hitler hadn't spread himself so thin over a 100 mile front. . . . Of course, the US would still have had the bomb on most versions of this story, and the Germans wouldn't, so WWII might have ended with the atom bombing of Berlin and Munich. jks ******************************************************

It was late November early December, 1941. The Germans were within binocular distance of Red Square. On the Far Eastern Front, Zhukov led the Red Army to victory against the Japanese too many times and a non-agression treaty had been signed with them in April of that year. Stalin ordered Zhukov to bring his army to Moscow and the tide was turned, especially after the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor.

Also, another big factor (in addition to working on the bomb), the Allies had radar and sonar. The Axis didn't. Did the Allies ever allow the Stalin's military to get ahold of that technology?

Ever curious, Mike B)

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