[lbo-talk] Howard Dean: "Now That We're There We Can't Leave"

Carrol Cox cbcox at ilstu.edu
Thu Jul 3 12:27:06 PDT 2003


Jeffrey Fisher wrote:
>
> i agree a legitimate *iraqi* government (gov't by and for iraqis)
> established through elections is something to push for,

How are you going to exert any power in this direction. Seriously, you simply reduce yourself to a chatterer on the sidelines by when you take _any_ postion as to what the U.S. is going to do there, because no one is going to pay any attention to you.


> what i wonder is
> what we'll do when people vote for a shiite theocracy.
>

If by "we" you mean posters to this list, we are going to stand on the sidelines and chatter.

If by "we" you mean the United States (regardless of who occupies the White house), "we" are going to kill more people.

Our (LBO) opinions cannot make _any_ difference whatever on what the United States does in Iraq over the next two or three years. _All_ that we can do that is at all practical (i.e. has even one chance in several thousand of influencing events) is to keep denouncing the U.S. presence there _as a way_ of maintaining and building a core who can began to expand their reach as the quagmire deepens.

I said that two years ago in reference to Afghanistan. My prediction was true. The "left" had no impact on events there.

It might make a person feel better about him/herself if he/she worked out a "good policy" for the U.S. to follow in its occupation of Iraq, but it won't have any effect on the rest of the worlds.

Carrol



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