[lbo-talk] Re: Law Student With a History of Taking Left Turns

Michael Pugliese debsian at pacbell.net
Mon Jul 21 08:28:22 PDT 2003


On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 09:50:24 -0400, Chris Doss <itschris13 at hotmail.com> wrote: ______________________
> ---
> Only a Berkeley liberal economist would place collectivized agriculture
> on the same evil level as total state control.

LBO-Talk Archive June 2002: Re: Anarchism vs. Marxism ... Seeing Like a State by James Scott - An overview ... Personal homepage -
> http://flag.blackened.net/chuck0/home/index.html
Infoshop.org -> http://www.infoshop.org ... http://www.squawk.ca/lbo- talk/0205/0456.html Chuck capsule review, "* Seeing Like a State by James Scott - An overview of statist schemes in the 20th century to use modernism to impose an aesthetic ideal on societies. Includes a very good overview of the state and how it strives to make everything it controls *legible.*"

Or a suburban washington, d.c. anarchist we all (well Carrol and Yoshie excepted) love.

http://www.yale.edu/yup/books/070160.htm SEEING LIKE A STATE How Certain Schemes to Improve the Human Condition Have Failed

James C. Scott 1998 464 pp. 36 illus., 6 1/8 x 9 1/4 Cloth ISBN 0-300- 07016-0 $50.00

Winner of the 2000 Mattei Dogan Award

Winner of the Mattei Dogan Award for Best Comparativist Book fo the Year, 2000.

Compulsory ujamaa villages in Tanzania, collectivization in Russia, Le Corbusier’s urban planning theory realized in Brasilia, the Great Leap Forward in China, agricultural “modernization” in the Tropics--the twentieth century has been racked by grand utopian schemes that have inadvertently brought death and disruption to millions. Why do well- intentioned plans for improving the human condition go tragically awry?

In this wide-ranging and original book, James C. Scott analyzes failed cases of large-scale authoritarian plans in a variety of fields. Centrally managed social plans misfire, Scott argues, when they impose schematic visions that do violence to complex interdependencies that are not--and cannot--be fully understood. Further, the success of designs for social organization depends upon the recognition that local, practical knowledge is as important as formal, epistemic knowledge. The author builds a persuasive case against “development theory” and imperialistic state planning that disregards the values, desires, and objections of its subjects. He identifies and discusses four conditions common to all planning disasters: administrative ordering of nature and society by the state; a “high-modernist ideology” that places confidence in the ability of science to improve every aspect of human life; a willingness to use authoritarian state power to effect large-scale interventions; and a prostrate civil society that cannot effectively resist such plans.

“A broad-ranging, theoretically important, and empirically grounded treatment of the modern state and its propensity to simplify and make legible a society which by nature is complex and opaque. For anyone interested in learning about this fundamental tension of modernity and about the destruction wrought in the twentieth century as a consequence of the dominant development ideology of the simplifying state, this is a must- read.”--Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, author of Hitler’s Willing Executioners

James C. Scott is the Eugene Meyer Professor of Political Science and Anthropology at Yale University and current president of the Association of Asian Studies. He is the author of Weapons of the Weak: Everyday Forms of Peasant Resistance, Domination and the Arts of Resistance: Hidden Transcripts, and The Moral Economy of the Peasant: Rebellion and Subsistence in Southeast Asia, all published by Yale University Press.

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"James Scott is one of the most original and interesting social scientists whom I know. So it is no surprise that Seeing Like a State is a broad ranging, theoretically important, and empirically grounded treatment of the modern state. For anyone interested in learning about this fundamental tension of modernity and about the destruction wrought in the twentieth century as a consequence of the dominant development ideology of the simplifying state, high modernism, Seeing Like a State is a must read."-- Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, professor of government and social studies at Harvard University and author of Hitler's Willing Executioners.

“One of the most profound and illuminating studies of this century to have been published in recent decades. . . . A fascinating interpretation of the growth of the modern state. . . . Scott presents a formidable argument against using the power of the state in an attempt to reshape the whole of society.” --John Gray, New York Times Book Review

“James C. Scott has written a powerful, and in many insightful, explanation as to why grandiose programs of social reform, not to mention revolution, so often end in tragedy–the Soviet disaster being the textbook case. . . . He has produced an important critique of visionary state planning.” -- Robert Heilbroner, Lingua Franca

"Illuminating and beautifully written, this book calls into sharp relief the nature of the world we now inhabit."--New Yorker

"[An] important book. . . The author's choice of cases is fascinating and goes well beyond the familiar ones like Soviet collectivization."--Francis Fukuyama, Foreign Affairs

"In a treatment that can only be termed brilliant, [Scott] has produced a major contribution to developmental literature. . . . This is a book of seminal importance for comparative politics and, indeed, for the social sciences. Highly recommended."--Choice

"Mr. Scott tells the story in witty, sparkling prose of these (Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, among others) relentless social engineers and how they tried to impose for all eternity a perfect social order or an urban blueprint, regardless of human cost and unremitting human refractoriness."--Washington Times

"An important and powerful work that deserves to be read by anyone interested in large-scale public planning. . . . Among the book's virtues are its lucid style, deep learning, and wide range of fascinating cases."-- Gideon Rose, Washington Monthly

"Where Seeing Like a State is original, and often startling so, is in its meticulous accumulation of empirical evidence that describes the failure of grandiose state projects to improve the human condition."--Brian C. Anderson, Public Interest

"Seeing Like a State is a worldly, academic synthesis of the destructive hubris of large-scale rational planning. . . . What Scott does that is brilliant is talk about how states and large institutions acquire the knowledge that they ultimately use to govern."--Michael Schrage, Across the Board

"Its global focus, its attention to issues of environment and economic development too often ignored by non profits scholars, and its impressive grasp of how organizations work, recommend it to anyone seriously interested in the future of public life."--Peter Dobkin Hall, ARNOVA News

“Scott’s book is a paean to human liberty, a very complicated paean . . . This book [owes] much of its value to the details of the particular case studies, and to Scott’s enthusiasm and ingenuity in seeing links among apparently different human projects. He has written a remarkably interesting book on social engineering.” --Cass R. Sunstein, New Republic

“A broad-ranging, theoretically important, and empirically grounded treatment of the modern state and its propensity to simplify and make legible a society which by nature is complex and opaque. For anyone interested in learning about this fundamental tension of modernity and about the destruction wrought in the twentieth century as a consequence of the dominant development ideology of the simplifying state, this is a must- read.”--Daniel Jonah Goldhagen, author of Hitler’s Willing Executioners

"A tour de force. . . . Reading the book delighted and inspired me. It's not the first time Jim Scott has had that effect." --Charles Tilly, Columbia University

"The 'perfection' Scott so rightly and with such tremendous skill and erudition debunks in his book he himself has nearly reached, as far as positing and presenting the problem is concerned. The case of what the order-crazy mind is capable of doing and why we need to stop it from doing it has been established 'beyond any reasonable doubt' and with a force that cannot be strengthened." --Zygmunt Bauman, emeritus professor, University of Leeds

"Stunning insights, an original position, and a conceptual approach of global application. Scott's book will at once take its place among the decade's truly seminal contributions to comparative politics." --M. Crawford Young, University of Wisconsin, Madison

“In Seeing Like a State James Scott has given us powerful new paradigms of state action and popular resistance. His work is sure to inspire new thinking and research in history and social sciences.”--Fred Murphy, The Reader’s Catalog

“Brilliant…[Scott] has produced a major contribution to developmental literature…this is a book of seminal importance for comparative politics and indeed, for the social sciences.”--Choice

“Scott’s book . . . is an important and powerful work that deserves to be read by anyone interested in large-scale public planning. . . . Among the book’s virtues are its lucid style, deep learning, and wide range of fascinating cases.”--Gideon Rose, Washington Monthly

“Seeing Like a State is a worldly, academic synthesis of the destructive hubris of large-scale rational planning. . . . Scott . . . takes a few powerful but basic themes and builds a persuasive case against what he calls ‘High Modernism.’ High Modernism, in essence, is the ideology of grand rational planners whose initiatives are based on the perfectibility of man. What Scott does that is brilliant is talk about how states and large institutions acquire the knowledge that they ultimately use to govern.”--Michael Schrage, Across the Board

“Seeing Like a State has a great deal of merit. In exploring ‘the sensorium of a Leviathan, Scott is standing on the shoulders of Foucault, but he has opened up an important issue to popular debate.”--Gary Sturgess, Policy

"Seeing Like a State remains a tremendous achievement, easily one of the most impressive and important books of recent years."--Jesse Walker, Reason

"This is a magisterial book. . . . Scott's conceptual contributions will have a profound impact on our own making sense of the world."--David D. Laitin, Journal of Interdisciplinary History

"This is a book rich in ideas and arguments."--Ronald Grigor Suny, Slavic Review

"A lucid and richly illustrated study. . . . While the book itself is a tour de force, Scott's final destination in the conclusion is a personal and passionate argument for liberal democracy . . . as the only practical means of harmonizing local experience with the responsibilities of statecraft. Scholars and policy planners concerned with Africa have much to learn from Scott's methodology and his message."--James C. McCann, International Journal of African Historical Studies

"James Scott's tantalizing treatise invites us to ponder carefully the tragedies of modern state interventions as we struggle to recognize the resources people have to qualify those efforts and pursue possibilities for improving the future."--R. Bin Wong, Political Science Quarterly

"Scott's scholarship is formidable, his insights many, his rich detail usually stilling criticism. . . . This is a book of powerful case studies."- -Michael Mann, American Journal of Sociology

"This is an enjoyable read. . . . Scott has made a valuable contribution to comparative development literature by distilling bout some of the essential features of development plans to show how they cause failure. . . . Hopefully his insights will lead to changes in development planning to avoid the pitfalls he identifies."--Sharon R. Murphy, Review of Politics

“Seeing Like a State is an important work. It will, I believe, be used widely in university courses and by a wider reading public who seek to understand the broad contours of our recent history.”--Jane Adams, Rural History

“An engrossing book that formulates some big ideas with a sweeping and inventive register of examples, Seeing Like a State promises to join an ever-growing list of works by James Scott destined to achieve that most desirable of academic fates--longevity.”--Akil Gupta, Journal of Asian Studies

“This is a book to which the highest words of praise, those most thriftily dispensed, are justly applied. It amounts to a brilliant, dense, fascinating and--rarest of all in academic publishing--prophetic case against the hubris of what it calls high-modernist planning and for the respect of both local knowledge and conditions of complex diversity. It deserves a wide reading across disciplines and beyond the university.”-- Roger Epp, Canadian Journal of Political Science

“Without doubt, this is an important book and should be of interest to anyone studying state-led efforts to transform nature or society. In an era of neoliberal dominance, Scott’s core arguments are especially relevant.”-- Michael Bressler, Governance

“To my mind, Seeing Like a State is one of the most stimulating and ambitious synthetic works of recent years.”--John Agar, British Journal for the History of Science -- Michael Pugliese



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