[lbo-talk] Re: Bring Them Home Now: Leaflets & Website (from Stan Goff)

[andie nachgeborenen]

Yeah, well, we face unpleasant alternatives. Yoshie's
is to allow the region to marinate foer decades in a
stew of local conflicts while some credible ruling
force emerges. Personally, I do not find this
attractivem given what might happen in the region,
never mind the cost to the Iraqis. I remind you that
allour demands are pipe draems. They are not a program
for action. They are not policy recommendations. They
are tools for organizing domestic opposition.
Therefore, if they remind our audience that the US has
demolished Iraq as well as colonized it, and help to
persuade people that that's bad, they will have done
what they are supposed to do: raise the cost to the
govt of the occupation and lower the likelihood of
another. Such things are not to be evaluated, as
Yoshie evaluates them, or in the terms Natahn calls
for, as policy prescriprions for a ruling partyu. The
object is to make it harder for ruling parties to di
what comes naturally. jks

--- Yoshie Furuhashi <furuhashi.1 at osu.edu> wrote:
> At 4:47 PM -0700 7/22/03, andie nachgeborenen wrote:
> >it would be good if it did and let the UN
> 
> The UN that let the US Government carry out the
> genocidal sanction on 
> Iraqis, the sanction that killed far more Iraqis
> than the current war 
> has?
> 
> At 4:47 PM -0700 7/22/03, andie nachgeborenen wrote:
> >someone relatively disinterested
> 
> Someone relatively disinterested, right now, has
> neither economic nor 
> military power to be of assistance to Iraqis.
> 
> At 4:47 PM -0700 7/22/03, andie nachgeborenen wrote:
> >the US is not leaving Iraq.
> <snip>
> >This is not a situation like Vietnam where when the
> US pulled out 
> >there was another govt to step in.
> <snip>
> >The recognition is not a license to do more or stay
> longer. It does 
> >impose a requirement that something be done by
> someone. Ultimately 
> >that will have to be Iraqis. Immediately, it
> appears, it cannot be 
> >the Iraqis.
> 
> There was no social force comparable to the
> Vietnamese Communist 
> Party -- founded on February, 3, 1930 -- ready to
> form a new 
> government when Vietnam was first colonized by the
> French in 1884 
> (Cf. "Indochina,"
> <http://www.bartleby.com/65/in/Indochin.html>).  It 
> took the Vietnamese about five decades of struggle
> against the French 
> Empire to get themselves organized into a political
> formation that 
> could grow into the leadership of a truly effective
> independence 
> movement.
> -- 
> Yoshie
> 
> * Bring Them Home Now!
> <http://www.bringthemhomenow.org/>
> * Calendars of Events in Columbus: 
> <http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/calendar.html>, 
> <http://www.freepress.org/calendar.php>, &
> <http://www.cpanews.org/>
> * Student International Forum:
> <http://www.osu.edu/students/sif/>
> * Committee for Justice in Palestine:
> <http://www.osudivest.org/>
> * Al-Awda-Ohio:
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Al-Awda-Ohio>
> * Solidarity: <http://solidarity.igc.org/>
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