[lbo-talk] Re:Genocide, Holocaust

Michael Pugliese debsian at pacbell.net
Fri Jun 6 22:43:53 PDT 2003


Waiting for James Weinstein tonight to talk at Modern Times about his new book on the US Left in the 20th century, "Long Detour, " blurbed by Eric Foner and other luminaries, I picked up, "Fires of Hatred: Ethnic Cleansing In 20th Century Europe, " by Norman Naimark, Harvard Univ. Press, 2001.

Chapter entitled, "Soviet Deportation of the Chechen-Ingush and the Crimean Tatars, " section entitled, :the Chechen-Ingush during WWII, "starting pg 94..."WWII formed the immediate background for the deportations of the Chechen and Ingush peoples.The official justification for the deportations emphasized the collaboration of the Chechens during the fighting, 'Many Chechens were traitors to the homeland, changing over to the side of the fascist occupiers, joining the ranks of the diversionaries and spies left behind by the Germans. They formed armed bands at the behest of the Germans fighting Soviet power.' (fn. 46 citing Order of the Supreme Soviet dated March 7th, 1944)...But, available evidence indicates they did not collaborate in any significant way. Moreover they participated in the war effort at a level similiar to that of other non-Russian peoples who were not subject to removal from their homelands. (fn. 47, citing Nekrich [one of the historians censured in the mid-60's by the CPSU for a co-written work, "June 22, 1941." ]" and an essay by William Fleming in Ben Fowkes edited vol., "Russia and Chechnya: Essays in Russo-Chechen Relations, " St. Martins Press, 1998. Fowkes, btw, has an excellent book on the German Communst Party, that along with Ruth Fischer autobiographical acct, this http://pup.princeton.edu/titles/5889.html and, "The Last Revolutionaries:German Communists and Their Century, " by Catherine Epstein,http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog/EPSLAS.html just published are good reads on the KPD and SED and GDR) Back to Naimark now..."John Dunlop confirms the observations of the first historians of the Chechen-Ingush deportations that there were no more than a hundred recorded instances of "aiding and abetting" the enemy. Even the NKVD reports from the period stated that no more than 335 "bandits" were in the Republic. fn. 48, citing Dunlop, "Russia Confronts Chechnya, " and Robert Conquest, " Nation Killers." End of quote, the bookstore was closing.

On another period of mass death in the fSU. (Grover Furr, below, btw and I have had a few cordial notes over the past few yrs. He recommends reading the vols. in the Yale Univ. Press series,"Annals of Communnism." Last time I was in touch was over, "Enemies Within The Gates? The Comintern and the Stalinist Repression, 1934-1939. http://www.yale.edu/yup/books/082428.htm The two newest volumes are Diaries of Comrade Dimitrov and the, "Doctor's Plot." ["Was Stalin killed to avert war?'] http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20030306.wxstal0306/BNStory/International

)   http://www.infoukes.com/history/famine/revisionists/ Famine-Genocide Deniers

Introduction On the Internet, there exists Famine-Genocide Deniers Web Pages. It appears the goal of these Famine-Genocide Deniers Web Pages is to downplay and minimize the significance of this tragic event in Ukrainian History. They also glorify Joseph Stalin as a hero of the people. These pages also state how Joseph Stalin's reputation is allegedly malligned by anti-communist Ukrainians who allegedly have pro-Nazi leanings. The purpose of this page is to expose people to this re-writing of Ukrainian History. Please explore these series of pages and judge for yourselves. Webmaster InfoUkes Inc.

Links to Famine-Genocide Deniers Pages

Grover Furr's Politics and Social Issues Page http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/politics.html This series of pages located at Montclair University and maintained by English Professor Grover Furr. These pages include links to a Communist site that refers to the Ukrainian Famine as a Hoax that was perpetrated by pro-Nazi Ukrainians. There are articles on Stalin and Anti-Communists. Grover Furr states: "The `Stalin Question' is one of the most vital issues of our time, I think, because stories about the `horrors of Stalinism' are used to demoralize millions of people who are otherwise fed up with capitalist exploitation and are looking for an alternative. The `anti-Stalinists' basically tell us there is no alternative! So serious research on the USSR during the period of Stalin's leadership is vital in helping us understand what the Bolsheviks did that was right, and what they did was wrong, led away from communism and egalitarism, and what we must learn from their heroic experiences" This series of pages also includes an article by Jeff Coplon in the Village Voice (New York City) that tries to minimize the significance of the Soviet instigated Artificial Famine of 1932-33 in Ukraine. It also attacks the Ukrainian Canadian Research and Documentation Centre's Documentary "Harvest of Despair".  Grover Furr's Politics and Social Issues Page  In Search of a Soviet Holocaust by Jeff Coplon, Village Voice (NYC), January 12th 1988. http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/vv.html (Cited by Alex Cockburn in a Beat The Devil column in The Nation in the 80's. Afterwards pgs. and pgs. of letters contesting his reading.M.P.)

Progressive Labor Party WWW Home Page

http://www.plp.org/ This series of pages belongs to the Progressive Labor Party which by entering their Home Page it becomes apparent that this is a Neo-Communist site. This site takes the position that Soviet instigated artificial famine of 1932-33 in Ukraine was a hoax. The site contains a six-part article published during the course of 1987 in Challenge-Desafio, newspaper of the Progressive Labor Party. This article attacks the Ukrainian Canadian Research and Documentation Centre's Documentary "Harvest of Despair" and states: "This film is a fraud. This essay will show that it uses lies, misleading film, and Nazi collaborators, to attack Stalin, the Soviet Union, and the whole idea of communism, while promoting nationalism and fascism." There are other articles on ths site that glorify Stalin and attack documentaries and literature that approach Stalin's life from an anti-communist viewpoint.  Progressive Labor Party WWW Home Page  The Hoax of the 1932-33 Ukrainian Famine  Conquest Book Lies About 1932-33 Ukraine Famine  Anti-Communist Ukrainian Nationalists Joined Nazis  The Lie that Stalin Was Worse than Hitler  What Really Happened in the Ukrainian Countryside? The Bolshevik's Error of Not Winning the Peasants to Communism  Never Believe What Bosses' Mouthpieces Say About the Fight for Communism!

Progressive Electronic Library This is another series of pages related to the Progressive Labor Party that are attempting to rehabilitate Stalin's reputation from a brutal oppressive murdering despot into an enlightened misunderstood leader of the Soviet Union. This particular site holds the pages generated by Professor John Plaice of Laval University in Quebec, Canada. It is based on the book "Another view of Stalin" written by Ludo Martens. http://www.plp.org/books/Stalin/book.html One of the areas tackled by these series of pages is the "myth" of the "Collectivization and the `Ukrainian Holocaust'". It essentially builds upon the works of Douglas Tottle, "Fraud, Famine and Fascism: The Ukrainian Genocide Myth from Hitler to Harvard" (Toronto: Progress Books, 1987). The following pages are directly related to the continuing attacks of the Progressive Labor Party on the validity of the Soviet instigated famine on the ethnographic territories of Ukrainians in the former Soviet Union.  Welcome to the Progressive Electronic Library!  Another view of Stalin by Ludo Martens  Collectivization and the `Ukrainian Holocaust'  A book from Hitler  A book from McCarthy  Between 1 and 15 million Dead  Two professors to the rescue of Ukrainian Nazis  `Scientific' calculations  B-movies  Harvest of Sorrow: Conquest and the reconversion of Ukrainian Nazi collaborators  Conquest's fascist sources  The causes of famine in the Ukraine  Ukraine under Nazi occupation <SNIP>

-- Michael Pugliese



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