>He didn't make the stuff for profit, doesn't sell it on a market, the "price" is determined by his extrinsic needs, and I'd have given him the $ anyway. Does that sound like commerce to you? jks
Not to him, no. But you were making the case that your gifts to him had some relationship to his gifts to you. I got the impression from that, that you felt some need to give value in return. I'm not having a go at you, just drawing attention to an innocent pattern of thought.
Bill Bartlett Bracknell Tas