[lbo-talk] Another Poll

Michael Pugliese debsian at pacbell.net
Thu Jun 12 17:09:51 PDT 2003



> Watch out. Apply that method to the question of
>> whether the Bushits deliberately allowed the 9/11
>> attacks to succeed and you'll have Chip Berlet et. al. convicting you of
>> Conspiracy Theorizing.
>>
>> Shane Mage

Strange Bedfellows, Dept.

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PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT AND THE COMING OF THE WAR, 1941 Appearances and Realities Charles A. Beard With a new introduction by Campbell Craig

Conceived by Charles Beard as a sequel to his provocative study of American Foreign Policy in the Making, 1932-1940, President Roosevelt and the Coming of the War outraged a nation, permanently damaging Beard’s status as America’s most influential historian.

Beard’s main argument is that both Democratic and Republican leaders, but Roosevelt above all, worked quietly in 1940 and 1941 to insinuate the United States into the Second World War. Basing his work on available congressional records and administrative reports, Beard concludes that FDR’s image as a neutral, peace-loving leader was a smokescreen, behind which he planned for war against Germany and Japan even well before the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Beard contends that the distinction between aiding allies in Europe like Great Britain and maintaining strict neutrality with respect to nations like Germany and Japan was untenable. Beard does not argue that all nations were alike, or that some did and others did not merit American support, but rather that Roosevelt chose to aid Great Britain secretly and unconstitutionally rather than making the case to the American public. President Roosevelt shifted from a policy of neutrality to one of armed intervention, but he did so without surrendering the appearance, the fiction of neutrality. This core argument makes the work no less explosive in 2003 than it was when first issued in 1948.

Charles A. Beard was the dean of the pre-World War II generation of American historians, and is widely regarded as the first historian to place economic factors at the center of American political life. The author of more than thirty books exploring the whole of America’s past, Beard taught at several universities before retiring to full-time writing. In 1948, he received a medal from the National Institute of Arts and Letters. He died later that year.

Campbell Craig is lecturer in American history and director of the honors program in diplomacy and international relations at the University of Canterbury, New Zealand. He was educated at Carleton College, the University of Chicago, and Ohio University. His current interest is in International Cold War and nuclear history, a topic about which he has written two books.

Letters to the editor (Vol. 1 number 4) ... Your reprinting of Harry Elmer Barnes' "The Public Stake in Revisionism" is a welcome effort ... in your review of Oradour by Philip Beck "Our WWII Revisionism is ... http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v01/v01p297_letters.html (Neo-fascist Holocaust Denial rag. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt.)

Revisionism ... In this effort, Dr. Harry Elmer Barnes was prominent, although ... a process in which Dr. Barnes was involved ... to the Holocaust and other propaganda of WWII. ... http://www.barnesreview.org/Revisionism/revisionism.html (Willis Carto, pseudo academic rag, now that the IHR is Mark Weber's toy, http://www.noontidepress.com/catalog/V115.html http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/s/shermer-michael/july22-debate- comments.html

Who Started WWII? Not Japan Or Germany ... American activities in 1941, that led to the US involvement in WWII. ... the anthology Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace, (edited by Harry Elmer Barnes, 1953), pp. ... http://www.cptwc.matriots.com/misc5.html

Author Gore Vidal Slams US for Waging 'Perpetual War' ... Outspoken US writer Gore Vidal has denounced Washington for waging what he called 'a perpetual war for perpetual peace' and said American aggression was only ... http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/1124-04.htm ############################################################   FOCUS ON ZIONIST GENOCIDE: WAS THE BUS BOMB AN ISRAELI ONE?   THE HOFFMAN WIRE Dedicated to Freedom of the Press, Investigative Reporting and Revisionist History Michael A. Hoffman II, Editor http://www.hoffman-info.com/news.html June 12 Did an Israeli Bomb the Jerusalem Bus? Editor's Note: The bomber who blew up a bus yesterday in Jerusalem is described as having been "dressed" like an Orthodox Jew. The media have rushed past this intriguing datum to proclaim, with their customary omniscience, that the bomber was actually a Palestinian member of the Hamas resistance. At best, this rush to judgement represents sloppy journalism. Any investigative reporter worthy of the name would first proceed from the bald facts: a religious Jewish man seemingly bombed an Israeli bus. If that is not the case, then reporters need to make an alternate case, not merely "proclaim" an identity for the bomber that flies in the face of the obvious and expect us to accept it on faith. The Israelis represent the synthesis of all the knowledge of the western secret societies. To report any skullduggery in their theatre it is necessary to analyze with profound depth and ask difficult, probing questions. For example, how is it that the Palestinian head of security for Mahmoud Abbas, the Quisling selected by Bush to enforce his "Road Map," is in fact a CIA agent trained by George Tenet? Furthermore, it is a matter of record that Hamas was founded by the Israeli government. While Palestinian rage against the Israeli occupation is real, the direction in which that rage is carefully shepherded and manipulated is shrouded in the mists of the Cryptocracy. Researcher James Sanchez initiates an inquiry along these lines. Was the Bus Bombing in Jerusalem Actually Committed by an Israeli? "There is no reason to believe that a bomber dressed as an ultra-Orthodox Jew on a Jews-only bus was anything other than a Jew.." by James Joseph Sanchez The June 11 suicide bombing in Jerusalem is described as having been perpetrated by a "suicide bomber dressed in the black-and-white garb of a devout Jew". It is worth noting that all other casualties on the bus and in the immediate area -- 16 dead and approximately 100 Israeli wounded -- are Jews. This is important to note since Israel's policy of racial discrimination restricts access to the majority of these Jerusalem buses to Jews only. The most reasonable conclusion is that the suicide bomber was an ultra-Orthodox Jewish settler. The "black-and-white garb of a devout Jew" is simply the Judaic dress of an Orthodox Jew and does not indicate being devout. Indeed, it is among Orthodox Jews that the Kach, Eyal, Kahane Chai and other Jewish terror cults find their members. It should be remembered that Baruch Goldstein, the Hebron mass murderer, was an Orthodox Jew. Significantly, he saw the massacre of Palestinians at prayer as an act of faith. Several years ago, after a wave of Hamas bombings in Israel, the Israeli and European media reported that the explosives used in those bombings had been supplied by ultra-Orthodox Jewish settlers who owned a quarry inside Israel. Explosives are used in quarries and so the Jewish radicals were able to procure explosives that they passed onto the Palestinian radicals inside Israel. Both shared the goal of defeating the peace talks, such as they were. This Kach-Hamas connection was never reported in the American media. Historically, the Israeli government itself has used terrorist attacks to stampede Jews to Israel, most famously in a campaign of bombings of Iraqi Jewish synagogues to terrorize Iraqi Jews into emigrating to Israel. Similarly, mere terroristic threats secretly made by the Jewish Agency stampeded the Cochini Jews of southern India to Israel. Other terrorist incidents, like the Israeli bombing of the American Embassy in Cairo to try to damage US-Egyptian relations in the 1950s, the attack onthe USS Liberty in 1967, and the use of the Jewish Defense League to stage terrorist attack in the United States (Arizona, California, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, etc.) in 1970s and 1980s illustrate the same general principle. There is no reason to believe a bomber dressed as an ultra-Orthodox Jew on a Jews-only bus was anything other than a Jew, and probably a Jewish settler. This should make even more clear the depth of the present dilemma. Those most threatened by change in the status quo in Palestine are the Israeli settlers. Under international law every Israeli settlement in the West Bank and Gaza Strip is illegal and must be dismantled. And yet, moving freely within the system of security set up to protect Jews, Israeli terrorists from precisely these settlements can stage suicide bombings at will. It is in the interest of no Jewish government to confront this ugly truth. Pretending Jewish terrorist attacks are really Palestinian terrorist attacks has obvious short-term political benefits for any Israeli political leader. At the same time, the assassinations of Sadat and Rabin illustrate the costs of challenging such radicals, whether Muslim or Jewish. (Rabin was assassinated by an ultra-Orthodox Jew.) Radical Judaic settlers have an unlimited ability to veto any "peace process" that Al-Qaeda must surely envy. In the most recent suicide bombing, it appears that Israeli radicals have again exercised their veto. Sanchez, based in Seattle, has a doctorate in Middle East Studies. He can be reached at seattleplatypus at worldnet.att.net   ############################################################

-- Michael Pugliese



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