[lbo-talk] Kees van der Pijl

Yoshie Furuhashi furuhashi.1 at osu.edu
Fri Jun 27 12:24:51 PDT 2003


At 12:30 PM -0400 6/27/03, Wojtek Sokolowski wrote:
> > 'We have no idea,' she said (paraphrasing from memory
>> now), 'how various peoples would have developed if
>> left to their own devices because Roman intervention
> > brought self-development to a halt.'
>
>Jared Diamond, _Guns, Germs, and Steel_ addresses that question by
>comparing societies that were geographically isolated (and thus
>could count only on sel-development) to those that were not (and
>thus cross-polinated one another so to speak). His conclusions are
>that self-development does not lead anywhere but backwardness and
>stangantion.

One doesn't want to live in a society stagnating at the level subject to periodic famines and chronic malnutrition, but supposing that society has already developed to the level where it is free from exploitation and oppressions and can meet (at the very least) basic needs of all (clean water, food, shelter, sanitation, health care, education, etc. and freedom), one may very well enjoy and be content with "the good life" that such a society offers and hope that it will remain more or less the same, in other words, "stagnate."

According to the OED, the word "stagnate" made its first appearance in 1669; the word "stagnant," in 1666; "stagnancy," in 1665. The world had began to change in capital's image, and it was no longer good enough to do as well as before. -- Yoshie

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