Sleuthing (wasRe: IRAQWAR.RU 3/26)

Kelley the-squeeze at pulpculture.org
Thu Mar 27 08:16:23 PST 2003


more below, doug, first, though, some sleuthing (starting with a whois search on the domain names) turns up this:

iraqwar.ru, aeronautics.ru, cliver.ru, chechnya.ru, serbia.ru, and jera.ru (among others) lead to one Vladimir Sukhomlin. All of these seem related in some way to Morion SLt--which I can't get a handle on. He appears to have had run a web hosting service, with several friends who used the service. aeronautics.ru is run by a friend but seems to be registered with Sukhomlin.

Oh and he uses the handle/username cliver for all his e-mail addresses. I'm too lazy at the moment to sleuth on because there is TMI to sift through it without a framework with which to interpret it all and narrow down the results. Some of the Russkiphiles here might have some idea what Cliver might mean/stand for?

Sukhomlin was beaten to death on Jan 4. He was a software developer and into information warfare.

http://english.pravda.ru/main/2003/01/16/42115_.html http://www.templetonthorp.com/en/news211 http://www.afpc.org/rrm/rrm1004.htm

requires paid sub: <http://www.sptimes.ru/archive/times/834/news/n_8354.htm> (got the link, here: <http://www.dailyrotten.com/archive/2003/0114.html>

aeronautics.ru is run by a friend of Vladimir's and you can read more at this cached entry:

<http://216.239.57.100/search?q=cache:XYCTfR15-D0C:www.aeronautics.ru/archive/cliver/+%22Vladimir+Sukhomlin%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8>


>On Thu, 27 Mar 2003, Doug Henwood wrote:
>
> > >Obviously, Russian intelligence has a lot of reasons to monitor
> > >what's going on.
> >
> > Monitor, for sure. But disseminate? That strikes me as very
>interesting. Far from discouraging the emergence of rivals to the
>U.S., the war on Iraq seems to be encouraging them - Russia (with the
>EU?) and China.

i guess i don't see how the information is particularly damaging. we know they're spying on us and, hence, not everything GRS is intercepting is "the truth". some of it is probably created just for their consumption.

and i guess i don't see how we are in some unexpected state of world conditions that the US gubmint hasn't expected all along. If the Thirty Year Itch article is at all correct, and I think it is, this is all in the plan, n'est-ce pas? And everyone knows about it. It's not likely that Russian, French, etc. intelligence missed any of this. And even if this documents, speculations, game plans hadn't been around for years, these nations would be fools to think that we aren't their enemies and we'd be fools to think that they aren't ours. (fools, from their worldview, that is.)



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