[lbo-talk] Race

Ian Murray seamus2001 at attbi.com
Tue May 6 12:40:10 PDT 2003


----- Original Message ----- From: "andie nachgeborenen" <andie_nachgeborenen at yahoo.com>


> Ian now falls into the Lakoff fallacy: because we talk in metaphors,
there is no truth.

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In the immortal words of Ted Winslow, keep digging Justin. :-). There are lots and lots and lots lots and lots of truthS..........

You know that I know the drill on this interminable debate, and frankly, I got bored with it years ago.

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Exactly; it is interminable and that interminability has something to do with language and our brains and their co-evolution, of which we know very little.

Decades ago, actuallly. I don't believe that you are really a pomist or other kind of relativist, and so I don't know why you are trying to provoke me into laying out this tired ground again. I get particulatly wearily of the endless burden shifdting. Look, I wrote a paper on this, The Paradox of Ideology, Canad. J. Phil. 1993. You havea copy. You want to deal with my views, post specific criticsim. Otherwise, take a hike. jks

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I'd rather return to the issue of whether more biology stories along the lines of Yip Harburg, Lewontin and Gould will help further root out racism as speech and behavior, but some folks on the thread starting drifting into the issues relating to the problems of representationalism and indeterminacy of reference so I thought we might need to revisit that. Who was engaging in provocation, not me. I prefer conversation to argument on this list as well as in flesh-space.

Ian



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