[lbo-talk] Race

[andie nachgeborenen]

Ian now falls into the Lakoff fallacy: because we talk in metaphors, there is no truth. You know that I know the drill on this interminable debate, and frankly, I got bored with it years ago. Decades ago, actuallly. I don't believe that you are really a pomist or other kind of relativist, and so I don't know why you are trying to provoke me into laying out this tired ground again. I get particulatly wearily of the endless burden shifdting. Look, I wrote a paper on this, The Paradox of Ideology, Canad. J. Phil. 1993. You havea  copy. You want to deal with my views, post specific criticsim. Otherwise, take a hike. jks

Ian Murray <seamus2001 at attbi.com> wrote:
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> Ian waxes Rortyian. Fortunately, as Rorty admits, the position is
self-undermining, since the claim that scientific and all other claims are
mere rhetoric is itself, on its own terms, mere rhetoric, and can be
reasonably rejected by them of us as distinguish between rationally based
belief and rhetorical appeals. That doesn't bother Rorty; he things we
rationalists will get bored or bore others with our tedoous talk of
nonrhetorical rationality. But I am surprised to see Ian take up the
relativist torch. jks
>
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Ah, a quick rhetorical rejoinder that clings to rationality without so
much as a definition except for the putting of a *not* operator to prefix
the term's constructed opposite in order to set the former free from the
Heraclitean flux of history.

Still waiting for the rationalist's non-defeasible definition of the
metalinguistic absolute, until then the relativist/absolutist binary just
looks like another recursion produced by syntax-grammar dynamics peculiar
to human beings...........

Undermining is metaphorical,

Ian

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