[lbo-talk] dixor

Kelley the-squeeze at pulpculture.org
Tue Oct 7 08:05:21 PDT 2003


At 10:39 AM 10/7/03 -0400, Charles Brown wrote:


>From: "Brian Charles Dauth" :
>:
>
>1. Regarding sexual identities. Most cultures that I have read about seem
>to have sexual identities of some sort. Issues of sexual expression and
>identity seem to be a part of all human experience. Homosexual identities,
>acts and homophobia existed long before capitalism came on the scene and in
>societies that are not capitalist. To claim that homosexual identity and
>homophobia are products of capitalism is just historically inaccurate -- an
>example of what I referred to earlier as the desexualizing tendencies of
>some Marxist thought.
>
>^^^^^^^^^^
>
>CB: Isn't it Foucault, not Marxists, who made the historical study and claim
>that homosexual identity arises with capitalism , and that prior same sex
>relationships were not "homosexual" ? For example, ancient Greek high
>society was not homosexual. Well, I guess Foucault was a Marxist part of his
>career, but I took it that this claim historicizing
>homosexuality/heterosexuality was exactly sexualizing radical thought.

i think you have to back up and ask if it's even accurate to say that Foucault said that homosexual identity is a product of capitlism. IIRC--sorry, books are in boxes--this isn't what he or any other foucauldian theorists of sexuality are saying anyway.

btw, the title of the thread was supposed to be "dixors, chixors, everything in between and beyond". But, as usual, i was distracted, left the computer, came back and forgot to finish titling the thread before i hit send.

chixors, joanna, is just some slang term geeks throw around for babes. i made up the word dixor a couple of months ago when I told everyone to go measure their index and ring fingers and find the ratio. the ratio is a predictor of testosterone levels.

turns out that research is showing that gay men have more test than straight men, and bi men have more than gay men. i don't know nuttin' about the lezbeans cos i don't think they thought to measure their T levels. and, o' course, it's research and there could be all sorts of problems with it. it's just an interesting finding. wouldn't it be awesome cool to find out that fags had more T than straights. heh heh.

kelley


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