[lbo-talk] dixor

Miike Quenling Ellis flagrant_sake at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 7 09:59:15 PDT 2003


--- Carrol Cox <cbcox at ilstu.edu> wrote:
> andie nachgeborenen wrote:


>
> Justin, you are trying to explain this to people whose most fundamental
> belief, so deeply entrenched no intellectual mirror will show it to
> them, is that truth is arrived at by adding up atomic facts. Hence there
> is no way that they can make sense of "Any gay or other genes manifest
> themselves only in environmental contexts."
>

not to hard to make sense of it.... it just doesn't say anything. if a gay gene doesn't exist it therefore can't manifest itself. if there is no gay gene to manifest itself...then it's not to hard to conclude genetics has absolutely nothing to do with that variation. Biological differences can't explain anything if there aren't any. i mean if you look at a sun and note something is exerting a very heavy gravitational influence upon it you might speculate that there's a black hole nearby then one looks for other evidence that black holes exist...if you find that there's no other evidence...and there is much evidence for something else you can't just dismiss the arguement as nonsensical because gravitational influence is dependant upon having mass.....that's probably a bad example but offhand i couldn't think of an example where two things that have mass might behave differently....anyway the fact that 2 things have mass and behave differently.....it's not nonsensical to conclude that just having mass doesn't explain why they behave differently. magnets are possibly a better example.

~M.E.

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